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No, if I search for "Platinum 8180", the top model from the latest Xeon families released roughly at the same time as Epyc, I have a full page of results coveri

No, if I search for "Platinum 8180", the top model from the latest Xeon families released roughly at the same time as Epyc, I have a full page of results covering dozens of different vendors. Most of them can ship within hours, e.g. the one I used 2 days ago shipped within 30 minutes. As comparison, if I search for Epyc, I can see 1 and only 1 vendor who is asking for the full price to be paid up front for a 4 weeks delivery.

dragontamer 9y ago
Okay, you're getting downvotes for no reason. So Imma +1 you. I don't think you're very wrong. With that said, you're still "somewhat wrong", but not in a way that deserves downvotes IMO. > No, if I search for "Platinum 8180", the top model from the latest Xeon families released roughly at the same time as Epyc Xeon Platinum 8180 is Skylake, which is -2 architectures behind. There's Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake ahead of the Skylake architectures. Granted, Intel releases servers at -1 architecture compared to consumers, but... yeah. In any case, I'm not aware of any Kaby Lake Xeons available, let alone Coffee Lake.
- dogma1138 9y ago
  Skylake S/SP is the current architecture which officially launched this year. Kaby Lake will most likely won’t appear in Xeons and the next refresh will be either Coffelake or Canonlake. This time around there is also a big difference between Skylake S/SP and Skylake this isn’t Haswell where the only difference was the corecount. Skylake S/SP has a different FPU structure AVX512 and SIMD CD support as well as a new core to core fabric interconnect and a few other changes.
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  - sp332 9y ago
    Kaby Lake Xeons launched earlier this year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Server/workstation_processors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Server/workstation_p...
    - AaronFriel 9y ago
      Those don't compete with AMD EPYC or Xeon Scalable Processors, but are low end server processors and workstation quad core parts. Intel's marketing, naturally, makes knowing what their current product lines are extremely confusing.
    - dis-sys 9y ago
      cute! quad core sever processors
    - dogma1138 9y ago
      These are effectively i3/i5s there is no Kaby Lak SP/X (well there is technicall X but these are 2-4 core CPUs which isn’t a traditional X class) and it’s not coming the 2018 refresh is Cascade Lake which is annoying since you’ll have Coffe, Canon and Cascade Lake all the the same time so I’m guessing it will be CFL, CNL and CSL not confusing at all. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascade_lake https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascad...
- dis-sys 9y ago
  Platinum 8180 is THE latest/fastest Xeon from Intel. I got down-voted because many people consider AMD as an alternative to Intel, betting AMD is going to deliver real competition and innovation. My comments probably broke their heart. Not an Intel fan, I just believe that real competition will eventually be pushed by a completely different architecture.

dragontamer 9y ago

Okay, you're getting downvotes for no reason. So Imma +1 you. I don't think you're very wrong. With that said, you're still "somewhat wrong", but not in a way that deserves downvotes IMO. > No, if I search for "Platinum 8180", the top model from the latest Xeon families released roughly at the same time as Epyc Xeon Platinum 8180 is Skylake, which is -2 architectures behind. There's Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake ahead of the Skylake architectures. Granted, Intel releases servers at -1 architecture compared to consumers, but... yeah. In any case, I'm not aware of any Kaby Lake Xeons available, let alone Coffee Lake.

dogma1138 9y ago
Skylake S/SP is the current architecture which officially launched this year. Kaby Lake will most likely won’t appear in Xeons and the next refresh will be either Coffelake or Canonlake. This time around there is also a big difference between Skylake S/SP and Skylake this isn’t Haswell where the only difference was the corecount. Skylake S/SP has a different FPU structure AVX512 and SIMD CD support as well as a new core to core fabric interconnect and a few other changes.
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- sp332 9y ago
  Kaby Lake Xeons launched earlier this year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Server/workstation_processors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Server/workstation_p...
  - AaronFriel 9y ago
    Those don't compete with AMD EPYC or Xeon Scalable Processors, but are low end server processors and workstation quad core parts. Intel's marketing, naturally, makes knowing what their current product lines are extremely confusing.
  - dis-sys 9y ago
    cute! quad core sever processors
  - dogma1138 9y ago
    These are effectively i3/i5s there is no Kaby Lak SP/X (well there is technicall X but these are 2-4 core CPUs which isn’t a traditional X class) and it’s not coming the 2018 refresh is Cascade Lake which is annoying since you’ll have Coffe, Canon and Cascade Lake all the the same time so I’m guessing it will be CFL, CNL and CSL not confusing at all. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascade_lake https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/cascad...
dis-sys 9y ago
Platinum 8180 is THE latest/fastest Xeon from Intel. I got down-voted because many people consider AMD as an alternative to Intel, betting AMD is going to deliver real competition and innovation. My comments probably broke their heart. Not an Intel fan, I just believe that real competition will eventually be pushed by a completely different architecture.