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Plus the capex costs of constantly having to buy new hardware and stick it in a datacenter for when your workload went up. Plus the costs of maintaining that h

Plus the capex costs of constantly having to buy new hardware and stick it in a datacenter for when your workload went up. Plus the costs of maintaining that hardware both from an opex and capex point of view. Plus the capex and opex costs of creating and maintaining the high speed network required to ship those files back and forth within the datacenter space that you're renting. Plus the massive hit in how nimble your team can be. (Want to support a new codec? Either buy and install new hardware, or set the priority on these re-encodes lower and tell your boss to wait six months) When you have an extremely variable workload such as Netflix et al, even though AWS/GCP/Azure are more expensive on a unit cost, your savings from operational expenditure will more than make up for that difference. Not having to buy and maintain a bunch of "just using baremetal machines" is a massive, massive cost savings. Lambda / Google Cloud Functions / Azure Functions are a natural extension of this-- your write/test/deploy cycle can be much, much faster and you don't have to even worry about maintaining any infrastructure. The brainpower savings of this more than make up for the extra cost for CPU cycles.

peterwwillis 9y ago
Well first of all, you can always pay someone else for baremetal server hosting and support, just like with Amazon. So you don't need to buy and maintain, and you can still save costs - you're renting, just like with Amazon. Second, even if Netflix's "workload" is variable, they're still using reserved instances. There's no practical difference from those to baremetal machines. Finally, I am highly skeptical of anyone telling me that five more layers of abstraction make it easier or quicker to write, test and deploy code. Code is code. Servers are servers. Microservices are microservices. Different people are (or should be) maintaining all of these, and if they do their jobs right it should not incur a performance penalty on anyone else. I will also state the obvious: if you don't hire the right people to manage the right pieces, you will waste huge amounts of time and money trying to figure out what other people have known for decades. This is universal, and has nothing to do with what technology you use.
- voltagex_ 9y ago
  > 300,000 CPUs You better have a bloody big datacentre.

peterwwillis 9y ago

Well first of all, you can always pay someone else for baremetal server hosting and support, just like with Amazon. So you don't need to buy and maintain, and you can still save costs - you're renting, just like with Amazon. Second, even if Netflix's "workload" is variable, they're still using reserved instances. There's no practical difference from those to baremetal machines. Finally, I am highly skeptical of anyone telling me that five more layers of abstraction make it easier or quicker to write, test and deploy code. Code is code. Servers are servers. Microservices are microservices. Different people are (or should be) maintaining all of these, and if they do their jobs right it should not incur a performance penalty on anyone else. I will also state the obvious: if you don't hire the right people to manage the right pieces, you will waste huge amounts of time and money trying to figure out what other people have known for decades. This is universal, and has nothing to do with what technology you use.

voltagex_ 9y ago
> 300,000 CPUs You better have a bloody big datacentre.