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OK, so you want to play this game. Now please provide those reports about life thriving everywhere. Birds populations face steep decline https://news.stanford.

by wazoox 9y ago

OK, so you want to play this game. Now please provide those reports about life thriving everywhere. Birds populations face steep decline https://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/january12/birds-011205.html https://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/january12/birds-011205.h... Common Birds in Steep Decline List https://www.allaboutbirds.org/state-of-the-birds-2014-common-birds-in-steep-decline-list/ https://www.allaboutbirds.org/state-of-the-birds-2014-common... Global collapse in huge songbird population https://www.uni-muenster.de/news/view.php?cmdid=7720 https://www.uni-muenster.de/news/view.php?cmdid=7720 Dramatic decline of bird population in Germany https://www.nabu.de/news/2017/10/23284.html https://www.nabu.de/news/2017/10/23284.html Sharp decline of birds in UK https://ww2.rspb.org.uk/our-work/conservation/centre-for-conservation-science/state-of-the-uks-birds https://ww2.rspb.org.uk/our-work/conservation/centre-for-con... Towards understanding large mammal population declines in Africa’s protected areas https://tropicalconservationscience.mongabay.com/content/v4/11-03-28_1-11_Scholte.pdf https://tropicalconservationscience.mongabay.com/content/v4/... Global decline in aggregated migrations of large terrestrial mammals http://www.int-res.com/articles/esr2009/7/n007p055.pdf http://www.int-res.com/articles/esr2009/7/n007p055.pdf Marine Fish Population Collapses https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/54/4/297/284117 https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/54/4/297/284117 Has Half of World's Wildlife Been Lost in Past 40 Years? https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/09/1409030-animals-wildlife-wwf-decline-science-world/ https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/09/1409030-ani... Marine population halved since 1970 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34265672 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34265672 Half of Great Barrier Reef Lost in Past 3 Decades https://www.livescience.com/23612-great-barrier-reef-steep-decline.html https://www.livescience.com/23612-great-barrier-reef-steep-d...

golergka 9y ago
> OK, so you want to play this game. Since when asking for sources is "playing a game"?
- jdmichal 9y ago
  It's playing a game when one uses it as an excuse to not respect the other party in a charitable discussion. That is, you don't need a source if you accept that the other party is acting honestly in the discussion. Asking for sources so that you can examine the data yourself is admirable. Asking for sources because certain words "trigger red flags" for you that the other party is not acting in good faith is a different problem. "In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity requires interpreting a speaker's statements to be rational and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation."
- bllguo 9y ago
  If you weren't "playing a game" then why haven't you addressed his sources? Or provided your own?
  - golergka 9y ago
    Because you can ask questions and make observations without taking a side.

by wazoox 9y ago

golergka 9y ago

> OK, so you want to play this game. Since when asking for sources is "playing a game"?

jdmichal 9y ago
It's playing a game when one uses it as an excuse to not respect the other party in a charitable discussion. That is, you don't need a source if you accept that the other party is acting honestly in the discussion. Asking for sources so that you can examine the data yourself is admirable. Asking for sources because certain words "trigger red flags" for you that the other party is not acting in good faith is a different problem. "In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity requires interpreting a speaker's statements to be rational and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation."
bllguo 9y ago
If you weren't "playing a game" then why haven't you addressed his sources? Or provided your own?
- golergka 9y ago
  Because you can ask questions and make observations without taking a side.