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>I disagree with your solution. Less guns and more discipline at a young age would go a long way. Agreed, But until you can outlaw owning a gun and criminalizi

>I disagree with your solution. Less guns and more discipline at a young age would go a long way. Agreed, But until you can outlaw owning a gun and criminalizing bad parenting we won't see any realistic change. >Why should a kid take your lecturing and conflict resolution seriously if he/she hasn't been raised knowing their actions will lead to very real and immediate consequences. It because the incentive would be admission to the center. It would be part of the experience. If they're not taking it seriously or behaving inappropriately privileges will be revoked. My hope is that they will receive this type of risk reward reinforcement at the center. >The prison and juvenile detention systems encourage criminality not correction. Maybe the needed education is for parents. Social shaming of abandoning your child raising spouse might help too. Agreed. Maybe national ad council money can be used for this social shaming of sorts. But sometimes it's not as simple as everyone abandoning their children. But again no one criminalizes bad parenting. >I'm just saying,it's always best to address the disease instead of the symptom and that at the foundation of a child's life. Just my humble opinion. Agreed. We needs to attack the disease and not the symptoms. Things like passing more gun laws aren't going to help this city. We have some of the strictest laws in the country. Criminal don't follow laws. This is known. The key is to reach these kids before they're picking up guns. We need to find out what drives their urge to rob, maim, and kill. Sure we can say it's bad parenting but it also goes a lot deeper than that. I had bad parents, grew up in a single parent home, and I don't feel the need to rob or kill. Sure it's anecdotal but it just a small piece of evidence that some kids turn out fine with shitty parents.

GFischer 9y ago
" criminalizing bad parenting " We have an equivalent of Child Protection Services here in my country, and what they do is take away the children from bad parents. It's not a great solution, there's a massive overpopulation of children in foster homes if lucky, group homes if unlucky. I wish they did something to the parents (my radical solution would be some kind of reversible sterilization until they prove themselves able to raise a kid) BTW there was a thread where people complained that Child Protection Services threatened some HackerNewser parents to take their children away because they left them to play in a park alone, yet they don't do anything in Baltimore?
- millzlane 9y ago
  Technically I was a free range latch key kid. I'm not sure how involved CPS here is involved in the bad parenting cases. They're probably overwhelmed with drug addicted parents and kids who's parents are criminals. I think bad parents should be punished but I'm wouldn't go as far as to say they're criminals. It's a very slippery slope. I feel like a voluntary reversible sterilization subsidies from the government would be a pretty good idea.
badrabbit 9y ago
I think the old saying "hurting people hurt people" applies. Maybe goes beyond parents ,as in "it takes a village to raise a child". I wonder if you have had good role models that you turned out well? As far as gun laws,even in boston the US constitution applies so people get guns. Look at japan,their gun laws are so strict,their gangs(yakuza) very rarely keep guns. Sometimes cop's don't even bother to bring guns when raiding gangs! Gun laws work,so long as it isn't half baked with all sorts of exceptions and short prison times. " No guns for all civilians" with a "7-15 year prison term upon violation" is what I meany by gun laws. Anyways,I hope you prove me wrong and do great by the kids in your city.

GFischer 9y ago

" criminalizing bad parenting " We have an equivalent of Child Protection Services here in my country, and what they do is take away the children from bad parents. It's not a great solution, there's a massive overpopulation of children in foster homes if lucky, group homes if unlucky. I wish they did something to the parents (my radical solution would be some kind of reversible sterilization until they prove themselves able to raise a kid) BTW there was a thread where people complained that Child Protection Services threatened some HackerNewser parents to take their children away because they left them to play in a park alone, yet they don't do anything in Baltimore?

millzlane 9y ago
Technically I was a free range latch key kid. I'm not sure how involved CPS here is involved in the bad parenting cases. They're probably overwhelmed with drug addicted parents and kids who's parents are criminals. I think bad parents should be punished but I'm wouldn't go as far as to say they're criminals. It's a very slippery slope. I feel like a voluntary reversible sterilization subsidies from the government would be a pretty good idea.

badrabbit 9y ago

I think the old saying "hurting people hurt people" applies. Maybe goes beyond parents ,as in "it takes a village to raise a child". I wonder if you have had good role models that you turned out well? As far as gun laws,even in boston the US constitution applies so people get guns. Look at japan,their gun laws are so strict,their gangs(yakuza) very rarely keep guns. Sometimes cop's don't even bother to bring guns when raiding gangs! Gun laws work,so long as it isn't half baked with all sorts of exceptions and short prison times. " No guns for all civilians" with a "7-15 year prison term upon violation" is what I meany by gun laws. Anyways,I hope you prove me wrong and do great by the kids in your city.