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It’s easy to be nice after a person has made big bucks by cheating everyone. Watch “Pirates of Silicon Valley”

kmnc 9y ago
Why should we condemn a person for good acts based on previous poor actions? Or are you just so cynical that you can't take his good actions in good faith?
- greglindahl 9y ago
  I suspect that the condemnation is for previous poor actions, not for the current good acts.
  - majani 9y ago
    But what better atonement for previous sins than giving away 99% of your wealth to charity?
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      And you might not be surprised to learn that many people don't think that's good enough. This is not a new issue, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)
- randcraw 9y ago
  The phrase "good faith" implies you can see into the mind of someone else. Whenever it appears, someone is trying to bias the jury. The Gates Foundation is dedicated to "tactical philanthropy" which maximizes investment "leverage" by allying with existing commercial/political interests whenever possible, often with strings attached. Gates has stated clearly that he prioritizes programs that are revenue neutral -- that generate enough income to sustain themselves. While that's better than a stick in the eye, that's not exactly "giving your money away". And in terms of atonement, exactly what remedial actions are sufficient to turn a gangster into a saint? Martin Shkreli and Al Capone would like to know.
erezsh 9y ago
I'm pretty sure he played the game the same way everyone else did, and they're only bitter because he had more success. Maybe you would also donate your billions to charity. Well, good luck earning them in the first place while playing fair.
- 24gttghh 9y ago
  So, don't hate the player, hate the game? That does a nice job of throwing personal responsibility out the window.
  - meebs 9y ago
    Vote to change the game! America's obsession with personal responsibility is unhealthy. Although in this case I would agree that Bill Gates was privileged enough to not need to do what he had done.
Shikadi 9y ago
I love that movie, but I don't get the impression he cheated anyone from it other than the guy who wrote DOS. Even then, it's not cheating to buy someone's product that you see potential in, companies do that every day. You can't really say he cheated Apple because they were both "stealing" ideas from Xerox.

kmnc 9y ago

Why should we condemn a person for good acts based on previous poor actions? Or are you just so cynical that you can't take his good actions in good faith?

greglindahl 9y ago
I suspect that the condemnation is for previous poor actions, not for the current good acts.
- majani 9y ago
  But what better atonement for previous sins than giving away 99% of your wealth to charity?
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    And you might not be surprised to learn that many people don't think that's good enough. This is not a new issue, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)
randcraw 9y ago
The phrase "good faith" implies you can see into the mind of someone else. Whenever it appears, someone is trying to bias the jury. The Gates Foundation is dedicated to "tactical philanthropy" which maximizes investment "leverage" by allying with existing commercial/political interests whenever possible, often with strings attached. Gates has stated clearly that he prioritizes programs that are revenue neutral -- that generate enough income to sustain themselves. While that's better than a stick in the eye, that's not exactly "giving your money away". And in terms of atonement, exactly what remedial actions are sufficient to turn a gangster into a saint? Martin Shkreli and Al Capone would like to know.

erezsh 9y ago

I'm pretty sure he played the game the same way everyone else did, and they're only bitter because he had more success. Maybe you would also donate your billions to charity. Well, good luck earning them in the first place while playing fair.

24gttghh 9y ago
So, don't hate the player, hate the game? That does a nice job of throwing personal responsibility out the window.
- meebs 9y ago
  Vote to change the game! America's obsession with personal responsibility is unhealthy. Although in this case I would agree that Bill Gates was privileged enough to not need to do what he had done.

Shikadi 9y ago

I love that movie, but I don't get the impression he cheated anyone from it other than the guy who wrote DOS. Even then, it's not cheating to buy someone's product that you see potential in, companies do that every day. You can't really say he cheated Apple because they were both "stealing" ideas from Xerox.