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Maybe not everybody's willing to sacrifice individual liberty at the holy altar of "stopping crime"?
by ng12 9y ago
Maybe not everybody's willing to sacrifice individual liberty at the holy altar of "stopping crime"?
- ng12 9y agoResponding to your comment above: How can you call that "due process"? In these cases the money is never proven to be of illegal origin, the owner never convicted of a crime. I agree with you that there's a balancing act but civil forfeiture has fallen off the tightrope long ago.
- marcoperaza 9y agoThe money is proven to be of illegal evidence, in a civil lawsuit. It is the same standard by which I can sue you for everything that you’re worth: preponderance of the evidence. It’s a lower standard than criminal court.
- ng12 9y agoI don't think that's true. There was no lawsuit for the civil seizure incidents I've read about, including the one described in the article. Hypothetically, even if that were true, does that not sound crazy to you? That the government would launch a civil suit against you for the crime of possessing money? Edit: Just read that you're in law school. You truly terrify me.
- dang 9y agoPersonal attacks will get your account banned. Please don't do this again. Edit: It looks, unfortunately, like you have made a habit of skimping on civility in your comments on HN. That is not the kind of site we want, so please up your game if you want to keep posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html