Non-trivial education without the BS? Consider a grad program in math or computer science at one of the best research universities: BS courses? Sometimes the

Non-trivial education without the BS? Consider a grad program in math or computer science at one of the best research universities: BS courses? Sometimes there aren't any and, instead, the students are expected to learn the basic material for the qualifying exams on their own. Interest? Students are expected to have some research project underway in their first year. Courses? They are mostly introductions to leading edge parts of research by world experts. You may not see just how to use it yet, but it mostly won't be trivial! Main requirement? An original contribution to knowledge worthy of publication. Publication? New, correct, and significant. BS? Do some good RESEARCH, and f'get about nearly everything else; the school will. Entrance requirement? Show you have the prerequisites, talent, and desire. Another way: Write a paper and publish it in a journal where one of the reviewers, editors, or the editor in chief is a prof at the grad department you want to go to, and when the paper is approved for publication then write a letter to that person saying you want to be a grad student in their department. Support? The best US research universities typically have more funds for grad student support than they have good grad students. More? Take three papers (one non-trivial paper) with a staple in the corner called your Ph.D. dissertation, and then your main work is DONE and you can concentrate on more in research, the opposite sex, etc. The Future? If you REALLY want to see computer science or math move forward, then don't curse the darkness and, instead, light a candle. Is this more of what you were looking for?