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Thank goodness they were able to squeeze in those new emojis in the latest release, however! Finding bugs of this serious nature should always be welcomed, but

Thank goodness they were able to squeeze in those new emojis in the latest release, however! Finding bugs of this serious nature should always be welcomed, but it should happen in advance of production release. As a result I imagine there will be some new positions opening up in the OS quality testing group, and lower management. Imagine the Steve Jobs rant that would have resulted. (shudder)

cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
I would imagine that Apple is already considering getting out of the macOS market given the latest round of advertising for their iPad Pro.
- lcnmrn 9y ago
  How do you build apps on iPad Pro?
  - cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
    No reason they couldn't port XCode to iOS, and given the nature of skunkworks projects in Apple, this may have already occurred. Plus they also have their current installed base of Macs that can still be used even if Apple stops development of new features for macOS while they transition the tools to iOS.
    - k__ 9y ago
      I hope they simply get out of the desktop marked and let us use Linux to build.
      - redial 9y ago
        I hope not, I like too much having a laptop that actually suspends correctly.
        k__ 9y ago
        True, I was blown away by this.
        wlesieutre 9y ago
        If it makes you feel any better, my Mac has a sleep/wake failure every week or two and reboots instead of waking up. Usually it works though!
        pxc 9y ago
        FWIW, the MacBook Pro (late 2016 model with TouchBar) that I'm typing often gives kernel panics on attempting to resume from sleep, but on my new ThinkPad T25 (running NixOS, of course), suspend and resume work OOTB and I've yet to see a problem occur with it. The GNU+Linux world is always changing, and Linux's hardware support gets better every year. I get the joke-- I've lived through suspend/resume hassles on laptops running Linux before, compiled the custom `tuxonice` kernels, etc. But no manufacturer who sells Linux computers has to ship laptops that have any trouble with suspend/resume, and my luck has been pretty good with a lot of recent, formally non-supported hardware I've tried.
      - 0x0 9y ago
        Seems unlikely considering the huge amount of APIs shared between ios and macos that would make porting a working simulator a herculean task. CoreAudio, AVFoundation, Metal, Mach kernel APIs and ports, XPC, CoreGraphics, CoreAnimation, etc etc etc
  - cschep 9y ago
    Playgrounds! :D
- nicky0 9y ago
  As far as I can tell, the only people the iPad is suitable for as a full time computing device are bloggers who write about iPads
- xd1936 9y ago
  If Apple's Mac business was it's own business, it would be in the Fortune 500.[1] I agree that they're pushing iOS hard, but I think as long as revenue is as strong as it has been, this new Post-Jobs Apple won't be getting rid of Macs. 1. https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/02/apple-earnings-fy17-q4/ https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/02/apple-earnings-fy17-q4/
nicky0 9y ago
I get your point but it's rather tiresome to repeat this Emoji jab since clearly the people drawing new emoji will be artists who would hardly be fixing code bugs instead.
- zokier 9y ago
  But their salaries are paid from the same huge hoard of cash. Infungibility of developer effort is more reasonable excuse for community-driven open-source projects than macOS
  - eropple 9y ago
    I, uh. I think Apple has enough money to hire artists and developers. Their net profits in 2016 were high enough to buy Iceland.

cuckcuckspruce 9y ago

I would imagine that Apple is already considering getting out of the macOS market given the latest round of advertising for their iPad Pro.

lcnmrn 9y ago
How do you build apps on iPad Pro?
- cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
  No reason they couldn't port XCode to iOS, and given the nature of skunkworks projects in Apple, this may have already occurred. Plus they also have their current installed base of Macs that can still be used even if Apple stops development of new features for macOS while they transition the tools to iOS.
  - k__ 9y ago
    I hope they simply get out of the desktop marked and let us use Linux to build.
    - redial 9y ago
      I hope not, I like too much having a laptop that actually suspends correctly.
      - k__ 9y ago
        True, I was blown away by this.
      - wlesieutre 9y ago
        If it makes you feel any better, my Mac has a sleep/wake failure every week or two and reboots instead of waking up. Usually it works though!
      - pxc 9y ago
        FWIW, the MacBook Pro (late 2016 model with TouchBar) that I'm typing often gives kernel panics on attempting to resume from sleep, but on my new ThinkPad T25 (running NixOS, of course), suspend and resume work OOTB and I've yet to see a problem occur with it. The GNU+Linux world is always changing, and Linux's hardware support gets better every year. I get the joke-- I've lived through suspend/resume hassles on laptops running Linux before, compiled the custom `tuxonice` kernels, etc. But no manufacturer who sells Linux computers has to ship laptops that have any trouble with suspend/resume, and my luck has been pretty good with a lot of recent, formally non-supported hardware I've tried.
    - 0x0 9y ago
      Seems unlikely considering the huge amount of APIs shared between ios and macos that would make porting a working simulator a herculean task. CoreAudio, AVFoundation, Metal, Mach kernel APIs and ports, XPC, CoreGraphics, CoreAnimation, etc etc etc
- cschep 9y ago
  Playgrounds! :D
nicky0 9y ago
As far as I can tell, the only people the iPad is suitable for as a full time computing device are bloggers who write about iPads
xd1936 9y ago
If Apple's Mac business was it's own business, it would be in the Fortune 500.[1] I agree that they're pushing iOS hard, but I think as long as revenue is as strong as it has been, this new Post-Jobs Apple won't be getting rid of Macs. 1. https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/02/apple-earnings-fy17-q4/ https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/02/apple-earnings-fy17-q4/

nicky0 9y ago

I get your point but it's rather tiresome to repeat this Emoji jab since clearly the people drawing new emoji will be artists who would hardly be fixing code bugs instead.

zokier 9y ago
But their salaries are paid from the same huge hoard of cash. Infungibility of developer effort is more reasonable excuse for community-driven open-source projects than macOS
- eropple 9y ago
  I, uh. I think Apple has enough money to hire artists and developers. Their net profits in 2016 were high enough to buy Iceland.