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> .. could be scary. But I disagree that this has anything to do with the iPhone X or its TrueDepth camera. Well, lets just say there's the kind of scary fact
by mmjaa 9y ago
> .. could be scary. But I disagree that this has anything to do with the iPhone X or its TrueDepth camera.
Well, lets just say there's the kind of scary fact that nobody, trustworthy, has audited this thing.
Like, should a company that didn't run a "doesn't let root login on first-try" test be allowed to be making such wide-ranging decisions as face-scanning?
What if I don't want to have my face scanned, but nevertheless need to pick up somebody's lost-phone/detonation-device? Shall I just wear a mask?
The point is that we have moved beyond a zone where 'disagree/-agree' means anything, any more. Our data is out there.
Not so sure I want my face involved where, preferably, my hands should be..
- philwelch 9y ago> What if I don't want to have my face scanned, but nevertheless need to pick up somebody's lost-phone/detonation-device? Shall I just wear a mask? Well...yeah. If you're out in public and your face is visible, you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
- heartbreak 9y agoAnd in some states, like Virginia, it's not legal (for the most part) to wear a mask in public if you're over the age of 16.
- tetromino_ 9y agoWhat does this have to do with "out in public"? I have by law, custom, and common sense an expectation of not being 3D-scanned in a gas station bathroom, even if I pick up the phone that the previous visitor had dropped on the floor.
- mmjaa 9y agoHonestly, I can't fathom why you're being downvotes, and this is exactly the predicament I'm most concerned about, personally. Like, its a cool technology - sure. But has nobody thought of the militarisation of it? Sheesh.
- dreamfactored 9y agoIn most countries you have no right not to be photographed (by anyone) when in public (by definition being in public is not being in private). I fully support this with the exception of the homeless (and I think it does somewhat support the right to cover your face in public if you wish).
- coldtea 9y agoYou don't have anything of the short by law. And not even by custom. It's just that such technology wasn't available in a popular device before.
- philwelch 9y agoAnd if the previous visitor was on a Skype call with someone while in that bathroom, dropped the phone on the floor, and walked out, and you walked in and picked up the phone, you would have the same issue. Many privacy-conscious settings that I've been in prohibit phones entirely.
- musage 9y agoIf you are an apologist for what is the equivalent of having hundreds of people in trenchcoats following every person on the planet, detailing their every public move and storing it forever, you don't have any reasonable expectation of your part in the documentary being underlaid with anything but sinister music.
- philwelch 9y agoI don't know if I'm an "apologist" for anything, but what you're describing has been the case for decades by now; it's an inherent property of cell phone networks. By 2005 we already all carried personally identifiable devices with microphones, geolocation, and cameras and a persistent connection to a network.
- musage 9y ago> what you're describing has been the case for decades by now; Does that make it even the tiniest bit more acceptable, or does that mean it's really high time to stop it? Being an apologist kind of hinges on that, and no need to put anything in quotes.
- philwelch 9y ago"People should stop carrying mobile phones" is an interesting proposition, but a fairly tangential one.
- brisance 9y agoYou just described Android. https://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locations-even-when-location-services-are-disabled/ https://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locatio...
- ReverseCold 9y agoSo... How do I turn it off?
- angry_octet 9y agoWhile I love the idea of everyone walking around in masks, do that at the moment and you are likely to be arrested or shot.