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There is a sort of social game that seems to emerge at some point, combining the worst of in-group bullshit and logic-puzzlng as a substitute for actually attem
by _jal 9y ago
There is a sort of social game that seems to emerge at some point, combining the worst of in-group bullshit and logic-puzzlng as a substitute for actually attempting to help folks honestly seeking questions.
The game goes like this: start discussing something: say, including rust in OpenBSD.
- Assume it (here, using rust in oBSD) is a great idea.
- For each objection, explain why it is trivial. Your tools are your own reasoning and knowledge of programming, the ability to ignore, minimize or belittle any and all reasons why things are the way they are, assuming away any legacy issues, and remembering that all needs and use-cases in the world exactly match yours.
- When you get bored, just walk away. It isn't your problem, after all, and you were just trying to help. High-fiving your cohort optional.
It ends up simultaneously coming off as arrogant and clueless. Last time I had a small problem and the time to try something new, I started it in rust. After getting a series of jackass responses to a simple question[1], I wrote it in C, because I just don't care enough to put up with twits fluffing their own ego at the expense of newbies.
This problem is hardly unique to rust - unfortunately it happens everywhere nerds gather. But rust has a really bad case of it.
[1] Found the answer a few days later when I thought of a better search term.
- steveklabnik 9y agoWhere was this? If it was in an official Rust forum, we don't allow "jackass responses", and I'd like to take care of it.
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- jancsika 9y ago> After getting a series of jackass responses to a simple question Getting those responses where, exactly? If you had mentioned literally any other language with a FLOSS community around it I wouldn't question that statement. However, Rust proponents so clearly claim to do the opposite-- you've even got Steve below explicitly stating that jackassery isn't allowed in Rust forums. What's the data to the contrary?
- wasted_intel 9y agoThat's frustrating to hear. I've stuck to the #rust[1] channel and have always received friendly answers whenever I've gotten stuck, and I've had a lot of questions over the past 3 years. :) [1] https://chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23rust https://chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23r...