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Do you have any evidence that majority of left parties members doesn’t support Venezuelan government despite the officials statements? The truth is that every

Do you have any evidence that majority of left parties members doesn’t support Venezuelan government despite the officials statements? The truth is that every major left party in Brazil supports Maduro (PT, PSOL, PCB, PCdoB, PDT, …). Sure there are dissidents, but it’s a unpopular opinion on the left-wing. For example, take a look on this post from the leftist congressman Jean Wyllys criticizing Maduro[1]. The vast majority of comments are from leftists backlashing him or trying to argue about why Maduro measures were good and necessary. 1: https://facebook.com/jean.wyllys/posts/978205575560783 https://facebook.com/jean.wyllys/posts/978205575560783

owebmaster 9y ago
PSOL and Jean Willys don't support Maduro, but they aren't really socialists/left wing. They more like American liberals.
- major505 9y ago
  https://brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2017/07/28/politica/1501262473_019811.html https://brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2017/07/28/politica/1501262... http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relacoes-internacionais-do-psol-toda-solidariedade-a-revolucao-bolivariana/ http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relac... https://www.reddit.com/r/brasil/comments/6qw61v/secretaria_de_rela%C3%A7%C3%B5es_internacionais_do_psol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/brasil/comments/6qw61v/secretaria_d... In the last couple years with the things going even more south in Venezuela, sure, there's been some dissidents in some of the leftist parties, but most of them still refuses to acknowledge that.
  - owebmaster 9y ago
    The second link gives me "page not found". The third one is a reddit that also points to a page that doesn't exist. The first one is an opinion article. I understand what you are saying, but as a brazilian left-wing myself, nobody respects PSOL, they are right-wing. And they don't support Venezuela. We do.
    - major505 9y ago
      I problably sow what was in cache. Well parties in Brazil are not exact know for clear ideology. More like a union of people just trying to get elected. Well, the only place I can see a clear set of ideas, and a litle of common goal its the PT ( workers party, if you are not from Brazil ). The strange thing is, Brazilians is in most part conservative people, mainly in small citys, likely because the catholic background, but even so are problably the most unrepresented people in politics.
      - owebmaster 9y ago
        > The strange thing is, Brazilians is in most part conservative people, mainly in small citys, likely because the catholic background, but even so are problably the most unrepresented people in politics. I think the so called "centrão" is very conservative with the "bullets, bovine and bible party" (Bancada BBB). The majority of the right wing (led by PSDB) is liberal and the left wing (led by the aforementioned PT - Worker Party) is progressist with a touch of liberal in the southeast and a lot conservative in the northeast. Side note: nobody here is talking about the scandal happening in Honduras right now with the right wing government frauding the election and clashing with the population.
    - rodorgas 9y ago
      Archived version of the 404'ed: https://web.archive.org/web/20170801031138/http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relacoes-internacionais-do-psol-toda-solidariedade-a-revolucao-bolivariana/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170801031138/http://www.psol50... Actually PSOL is unclear wether they endorse or reject Maduro after the National Constituent Assembly. For a Maduro supporter like you, it means that PSOL reject him. But the fact that there is discussion about it means that there are supporters within the party. The main argument was to show that there are people who support Maduro, which parent commenters doesn't believe.

owebmaster 9y ago

PSOL and Jean Willys don't support Maduro, but they aren't really socialists/left wing. They more like American liberals.

major505 9y ago
https://brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2017/07/28/politica/1501262473_019811.html https://brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2017/07/28/politica/1501262... http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relacoes-internacionais-do-psol-toda-solidariedade-a-revolucao-bolivariana/ http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relac... https://www.reddit.com/r/brasil/comments/6qw61v/secretaria_de_rela%C3%A7%C3%B5es_internacionais_do_psol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/brasil/comments/6qw61v/secretaria_d... In the last couple years with the things going even more south in Venezuela, sure, there's been some dissidents in some of the leftist parties, but most of them still refuses to acknowledge that.
- owebmaster 9y ago
  The second link gives me "page not found". The third one is a reddit that also points to a page that doesn't exist. The first one is an opinion article. I understand what you are saying, but as a brazilian left-wing myself, nobody respects PSOL, they are right-wing. And they don't support Venezuela. We do.
  - major505 9y ago
    I problably sow what was in cache. Well parties in Brazil are not exact know for clear ideology. More like a union of people just trying to get elected. Well, the only place I can see a clear set of ideas, and a litle of common goal its the PT ( workers party, if you are not from Brazil ). The strange thing is, Brazilians is in most part conservative people, mainly in small citys, likely because the catholic background, but even so are problably the most unrepresented people in politics.
    - owebmaster 9y ago
      > The strange thing is, Brazilians is in most part conservative people, mainly in small citys, likely because the catholic background, but even so are problably the most unrepresented people in politics. I think the so called "centrão" is very conservative with the "bullets, bovine and bible party" (Bancada BBB). The majority of the right wing (led by PSDB) is liberal and the left wing (led by the aforementioned PT - Worker Party) is progressist with a touch of liberal in the southeast and a lot conservative in the northeast. Side note: nobody here is talking about the scandal happening in Honduras right now with the right wing government frauding the election and clashing with the population.
  - rodorgas 9y ago
    Archived version of the 404'ed: https://web.archive.org/web/20170801031138/http://www.psol50.org.br/blog/2017/07/31/secretaria-de-relacoes-internacionais-do-psol-toda-solidariedade-a-revolucao-bolivariana/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170801031138/http://www.psol50... Actually PSOL is unclear wether they endorse or reject Maduro after the National Constituent Assembly. For a Maduro supporter like you, it means that PSOL reject him. But the fact that there is discussion about it means that there are supporters within the party. The main argument was to show that there are people who support Maduro, which parent commenters doesn't believe.