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Ask HN: What would u do if AWS launches a service exactly as ur idea?

I've been spending hours & hours whenever i get free time from my work on a serverless application repository product equivalent. Now that AWS has it, how do i handle this ? Shelve the idea ?

mindcrime 9y ago
I find it hilarious that people offer up "Shelve the idea" as the most obvious response when AWS (or Microsoft or Google or Oracle or Twitter or Facebook or Yahoo or $OTHER_BIG_CO) launch something like their project. Why would you do that? Do you expect AWS to achieve 100% market dominance and leave literally 0 customers who might prefer your thing? Can you not see any way to segment the market and identify a segment where you can make your product a better fit? Or how about not trying to compete on product attributes at all, but rather compete on another basis like customer intimacy or service, etc? Or even compete simply by having a better sales process? I'd say take a little time out, read The Discipline of Market Leaders, Mastering The Complex Sale, and Differentiate or Die and think about ways you can compete with them. IF your analyzes leaves you with the conclusion that the best thing to do is to drop your idea, then fine. But don't just randomly decide to drop it because AWS is going to be competing with you. Also, just a random thought that I recently had, given that I'm in the exact same boat (trying to compete with stuff AWS is doing).. read up on the old "Embrace and Extend" idea. I think there may be a kernel of something there, in terms of using that to compete against larger players. It's a half-formed / half-baked thought right now, but it might be worth chewing on a bit. If you're interested in continuing this discussion outside of HN, feel free to drop me an email. prhodes@fogbeam.com
- dvt 9y ago
  Awesome advice. Not sure about OP, but I think I'll be picking up some of those books ;)
- sriram_iyengar 9y ago
  Truly appreciate your inputs. Will take some time and think over this. The references are useful.
dvt 9y ago
No. You beat them where they can't beat you (the PG way): you do stuff that's not scalable. Off the top of my head: - Amazing customer support - Price undercutting (at a loss) for your first N customers - Free "softs" like monitoring, load-balancing, etc. - Make it a managed service for your first N customers - Urgently implement features requested by your first N customers
- znpy 9y ago
  > - Price undercutting (at a loss) for your first N customers Amazon is known to sell at loss in order to drive adoption or even hurt competitors. There is so much you can sell at loss, but Amazon can beat the crap out of it and sell much more at much higher losses and still be profitable in the aftermath. I'd say, starting a price war against amazon is quite a dumb idea, if you are a lot smaller player.
  - dvt 9y ago
    I was just listing things that one could do, I'm not sure what the best strategy would be vs. Amazon.

I've been spending hours & hours whenever i get free time from my work on a serverless application repository product equivalent. Now that AWS has it, how do i handle this ? Shelve the idea ?

mindcrime 9y ago

I find it hilarious that people offer up "Shelve the idea" as the most obvious response when AWS (or Microsoft or Google or Oracle or Twitter or Facebook or Yahoo or $OTHER_BIG_CO) launch something like their project. Why would you do that? Do you expect AWS to achieve 100% market dominance and leave literally 0 customers who might prefer your thing? Can you not see any way to segment the market and identify a segment where you can make your product a better fit? Or how about not trying to compete on product attributes at all, but rather compete on another basis like customer intimacy or service, etc? Or even compete simply by having a better sales process? I'd say take a little time out, read The Discipline of Market Leaders, Mastering The Complex Sale, and Differentiate or Die and think about ways you can compete with them. IF your analyzes leaves you with the conclusion that the best thing to do is to drop your idea, then fine. But don't just randomly decide to drop it because AWS is going to be competing with you. Also, just a random thought that I recently had, given that I'm in the exact same boat (trying to compete with stuff AWS is doing).. read up on the old "Embrace and Extend" idea. I think there may be a kernel of something there, in terms of using that to compete against larger players. It's a half-formed / half-baked thought right now, but it might be worth chewing on a bit. If you're interested in continuing this discussion outside of HN, feel free to drop me an email. prhodes@fogbeam.com

dvt 9y ago
Awesome advice. Not sure about OP, but I think I'll be picking up some of those books ;)
sriram_iyengar 9y ago
Truly appreciate your inputs. Will take some time and think over this. The references are useful.

dvt 9y ago

No. You beat them where they can't beat you (the PG way): you do stuff that's not scalable. Off the top of my head: - Amazing customer support - Price undercutting (at a loss) for your first N customers - Free "softs" like monitoring, load-balancing, etc. - Make it a managed service for your first N customers - Urgently implement features requested by your first N customers

znpy 9y ago
> - Price undercutting (at a loss) for your first N customers Amazon is known to sell at loss in order to drive adoption or even hurt competitors. There is so much you can sell at loss, but Amazon can beat the crap out of it and sell much more at much higher losses and still be profitable in the aftermath. I'd say, starting a price war against amazon is quite a dumb idea, if you are a lot smaller player.
- dvt 9y ago
  I was just listing things that one could do, I'm not sure what the best strategy would be vs. Amazon.