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>Democracy : Rule ( tyranny) of majority Thanks! That's accurate. Majority= asses.

coldtea 9y ago
First, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect Second, doesn't matter whether a person is an ass or not. When it comes to deciding things that affect their life too, they should have a say. And that's the whole point of actual democracy. It's not for deciding on some BS "best course" (which doesn't even exist, different people want different things and see them as best), but of giving people an equal say to public matters. Saying: these people shouldn't have a say because they're "asses" is not really different that saying these people shouldn't have a say because they are blacks, women, etc.
- geggam 9y ago
  Couple reasons why direct democracy is terrible and your concept of people being able to care for themselves to the point they should influence society as a whole is also terrible. “Men never do good unless necessity drives them to it; but when they are free to choose and can do just as they please, confusion and disorder become rampant.” ― Niccolò Machiavelli “Men are so simple, and governed so absolutely by their present needs, that he who wishes to deceive will never fail in finding willing dupes.” ― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince
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  - coldtea 9y ago
    If anything, those examples, negate your argument. Machiavelli offered this advice to the "Prince" -- that is, to an authority who rules outside of democracy. And he told the prince that it's easy to dupe men. That more of a reason for democracy -- direct and real, not representative. In which, there are neither princes, nor representatives to try and dupe people for their own interests. And where, if people find out someone duped them (eg. someone that they appointed to do something), they can immediately arrange for their removal (not after a 4 year term).

First, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect Second, doesn't matter whether a person is an ass or not. When it comes to deciding things that affect their life too, they should have a say. And that's the whole point of actual democracy. It's not for deciding on some BS "best course" (which doesn't even exist, different people want different things and see them as best), but of giving people an equal say to public matters. Saying: these people shouldn't have a say because they're "asses" is not really different that saying these people shouldn't have a say because they are blacks, women, etc.

geggam 9y ago
Couple reasons why direct democracy is terrible and your concept of people being able to care for themselves to the point they should influence society as a whole is also terrible. “Men never do good unless necessity drives them to it; but when they are free to choose and can do just as they please, confusion and disorder become rampant.” ― Niccolò Machiavelli “Men are so simple, and governed so absolutely by their present needs, that he who wishes to deceive will never fail in finding willing dupes.” ― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince
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- coldtea 9y ago
  If anything, those examples, negate your argument. Machiavelli offered this advice to the "Prince" -- that is, to an authority who rules outside of democracy. And he told the prince that it's easy to dupe men. That more of a reason for democracy -- direct and real, not representative. In which, there are neither princes, nor representatives to try and dupe people for their own interests. And where, if people find out someone duped them (eg. someone that they appointed to do something), they can immediately arrange for their removal (not after a 4 year term).