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Funny how socialism always seems to require the amount and kind of force provided by a dictatorship...
by mmirate 9y ago
Funny how socialism always seems to require the amount and kind of force provided by a dictatorship...
- WJW 9y agoLike in most of Western Europe?
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- BjoernKW 9y agoThere's no socialism in Western Europe, at least not by common standards. It's called social democracy. In contrast to socialism the means of production are largely privately owned and there's no single-party system.
- ptaipale 9y agoWestern Europe is not "socialist countries". The traditional meaning of a socialist state is "means of production are controlled by the state". None of the countries in Western Europe work like this. They are market economies. What people often don't understand is, by the way, that the supposedly "more socialist" countries in North Europe, like Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark, are in fact in many ways more market driven and have very free economies, compared to e.g. "non-socialist" Southern Europe. But of course, in all countries the politics meddles with the economy.
- cdancette 9y agoNot at all. Social democracies never needed this amount of force, nor current socialist regimes in Europe.
- Shivetya 9y agobut they are not socialist governments. don't confuse having the word in the government title as being the primary form being exercised.
- dgut 9y agoSocial democracy != socialism. Also, what "current socialist regimes in Europe"? What you mean is that some European countries have a welfare system paid by a highly effective capitalist economy.
- PeachPlum 9y agoNew Lanark (formed before Marx was even born), where the term socialism was coined, didn't need at kind of force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Lanark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Lanark