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They're putting these windmills all over West Virginia - its a shame really. They really spoil the views and kill lots of birds. It's another case that shows

They're putting these windmills all over West Virginia - its a shame really. They really spoil the views and kill lots of birds. It's another case that shows the difference between what the little people have to deal with vs the elites.

matthewmacleod 9y ago
I was hoping this was a parody, but I fear it’s not. The impact on views of wind turbines is minimal. Even if you don’t like ‘em, I’m sure you’ll acknowledge that some minor inconvenience is better than long-term environmental damage. Also, wind turbines dont really do that much damage to bird populations: https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/wind-turbine-kill-birds.htm https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-scienc...
- tomohawk 9y ago
  Not everyone agrees with you: http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/us-windfarms-kill-10-20-times-more-than-previously-thought.html http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/us-windfarms-kill-... My point was that the elites of Martha's Vineyard were able to kill the project, and at least part of that was based on what they look like. Windmills in the distant ocean view are much less impacting of views than ones prominently arrayed across ridge lines. It appears there's one rule for little people and other for elites.
FuckOffNeemo 9y ago
Are they an eye sore though? I grew up with them when they first started sprouting up in the UK. Decades ago now. Do they really kill lots of birds? What articles have you read on this? Bird strikes were one of my concerns originally but I found the original claims to be unfounded.
- rsynnott 9y ago
  The bird thing is an old myth, recently brought back into the public consciousness by Trump. If you want to protect birds, ban tall buildings, power transmission lines, farming, and cats; all kill far, far more birds than wind turbines.
Ensorceled 9y ago
House cats kill FAR more birds than windmills ever will. And windmills don’t kill any squirrels or chipmunks. I’m not sure why people focus on the estimated 100k to 1M birds and bats killed by windmills[1] when house cats kill 1-2 Billion[2]. Perhaps they have an agenda? 1: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-... 2: http://www.businessinsider.com/cats-kill-billions-of-birds-and-mammals-each-year-2014-12 http://www.businessinsider.com/cats-kill-billions-of-birds-a...
blackguardx 9y ago
Coal mines and coal power plants are worse for your view.

matthewmacleod 9y ago

I was hoping this was a parody, but I fear it’s not. The impact on views of wind turbines is minimal. Even if you don’t like ‘em, I’m sure you’ll acknowledge that some minor inconvenience is better than long-term environmental damage. Also, wind turbines dont really do that much damage to bird populations: https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/wind-turbine-kill-birds.htm https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-scienc...

tomohawk 9y ago
Not everyone agrees with you: http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/us-windfarms-kill-10-20-times-more-than-previously-thought.html http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/us-windfarms-kill-... My point was that the elites of Martha's Vineyard were able to kill the project, and at least part of that was based on what they look like. Windmills in the distant ocean view are much less impacting of views than ones prominently arrayed across ridge lines. It appears there's one rule for little people and other for elites.

FuckOffNeemo 9y ago

Are they an eye sore though? I grew up with them when they first started sprouting up in the UK. Decades ago now. Do they really kill lots of birds? What articles have you read on this? Bird strikes were one of my concerns originally but I found the original claims to be unfounded.

rsynnott 9y ago
The bird thing is an old myth, recently brought back into the public consciousness by Trump. If you want to protect birds, ban tall buildings, power transmission lines, farming, and cats; all kill far, far more birds than wind turbines.

Ensorceled 9y ago

House cats kill FAR more birds than windmills ever will. And windmills don’t kill any squirrels or chipmunks. I’m not sure why people focus on the estimated 100k to 1M birds and bats killed by windmills[1] when house cats kill 1-2 Billion[2]. Perhaps they have an agenda? 1: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-... 2: http://www.businessinsider.com/cats-kill-billions-of-birds-and-mammals-each-year-2014-12 http://www.businessinsider.com/cats-kill-billions-of-birds-a...

blackguardx 9y ago

Coal mines and coal power plants are worse for your view.