> A big problem with his thesis is that I see just as much ugly crap in proprietary codebases where there is a clear structure of who is responsible for what.

> A big problem with his thesis is that I see just as much ugly crap in proprietary codebases where there is a clear structure of who is responsible for what. I don't think the contrast he's drawing is bazaar/open source vs. architected/closed source. It's versus strongly opinionated & or clearly-led open source, e.g. varnish, qmail, Rails, sqlite etc.