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You butchered my original comment to a point where I could only assume malice. As for "hints", my bad. In 2017 they're going back to the 800lb gorilla of sear

You butchered my original comment to a point where I could only assume malice. As for "hints", my bad. In 2017 they're going back to the 800lb gorilla of search and browsers for the bulk of their operating revenue, and I'm supposed to just accept that as "independence" and back off? There is a disconnect here that I'm obviously not going to bridge, so fine, they're independent! Go write their non-profit-for-profit chimera a check and "take back the web".

scrollaway 9y ago
The bulk of Mozilla's revenue through 2019 is most likely going to come from Verizon. https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/mozilla-terminates-its-deal-with-yahoo-and-makes-google-the-default-in-firefox-again/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/mozilla-terminates-its-dea... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/verizon-is-said-to-be-on-the-hook-for-mayer-s-yahoo-search-deal https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/verizon-i... I'm not aware of a renewal of the Google financial partnership. Feel free to correct me if you find information that goes beyond 2011. There certainly could be a new deal with Google there but Mozilla is not in the negociating position it once was, so there just as well could not; and seeing as I'm finding zero info about it, I'm leaning towards "there isn't". But hey, I guess if they don't make a billion dollars a year through donations and take in zero outside revenue, they're not independent.
- jstewartmobile 9y ago
  Unlike Edge, Chrome, Opera, or Safari, which are obviously corporate assets, Mozilla is also part non-profit, and going by their PR, a defender of privacy and the open web. When money from search, which whittles away at privacy to deliver the right ads, or money from Verizon, who isn't a friend of privacy or the open web, is what keeps the lights on, don't you think that is just a little misleading to Joe Internet who is thinking about donating his time or money to their cause?
  - scrollaway 9y ago
    Did you read the links? It's not like Verizon wants to pay that money. I think you're confused about how incentives work...
    - jstewartmobile 9y ago
      Already read the first article. Didn't read the bloomberg article about the buyout provision, so my fault. Retracting the Verizon complaint.

scrollaway 9y ago

The bulk of Mozilla's revenue through 2019 is most likely going to come from Verizon. https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/mozilla-terminates-its-deal-with-yahoo-and-makes-google-the-default-in-firefox-again/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/mozilla-terminates-its-dea... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/verizon-is-said-to-be-on-the-hook-for-mayer-s-yahoo-search-deal https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/verizon-i... I'm not aware of a renewal of the Google financial partnership. Feel free to correct me if you find information that goes beyond 2011. There certainly could be a new deal with Google there but Mozilla is not in the negociating position it once was, so there just as well could not; and seeing as I'm finding zero info about it, I'm leaning towards "there isn't". But hey, I guess if they don't make a billion dollars a year through donations and take in zero outside revenue, they're not independent.

jstewartmobile 9y ago
Unlike Edge, Chrome, Opera, or Safari, which are obviously corporate assets, Mozilla is also part non-profit, and going by their PR, a defender of privacy and the open web. When money from search, which whittles away at privacy to deliver the right ads, or money from Verizon, who isn't a friend of privacy or the open web, is what keeps the lights on, don't you think that is just a little misleading to Joe Internet who is thinking about donating his time or money to their cause?
- scrollaway 9y ago
  Did you read the links? It's not like Verizon wants to pay that money. I think you're confused about how incentives work...
  - jstewartmobile 9y ago
    Already read the first article. Didn't read the bloomberg article about the buyout provision, so my fault. Retracting the Verizon complaint.