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I am genuinely curious what is unlawfully preventing someone from voting?

throwawaymanbot 9y ago
I am genuinely curious why you are unable to google what is preventing people from voting? Are you on Gab?
dredmorbius 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_Unite... 1 Methods 1.1 Impediments to voter registration 1.2 Photo ID laws 1.3 Purging of voter rolls 1.4 Limitations on early voting 1.5 Felon disenfranchisement 1.6 Transgender disenfranchisement 1.7 Disinformation about voting procedures 1.8 Inequality in Election Day resources 1.9 Closure of DMV offices 1.10 Caging lists 1.11 Gerrymandering 1.12 Jim Crow laws 1.13 Off-year elections https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/voter-suppression-diaries-save-democracy-we-need https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-sup... In 2017, at least 99 bills that restrict access to registration and voting were introduced in 31 states. Thirty-two states have some form of voter ID law currently in effect. These ID laws don’t affect all people equally: people of color, low-income people, the elderly, students, and people with disabilities disproportionately lack the types of IDs that states deem acceptable. http://projectcensored.org/the-right-to-vote-a-candid-history-of-voter-suppression-in-the-united-states/ http://projectcensored.org/the-right-to-vote-a-candid-histor... In 2012, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) influenced several states to pass restrictive voter ID laws, which particularly impacted low-income voters, people with disabilities, and voters of color. Electoral reform is needed, López reports. Elections and the fight for voting rights are tools to be used to bring about revolutionary change and real democracy for the multiracial working class. There has not been any corporate media coverage of this story as of March 19, 2012. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/voter-suppression-trump-commission-ohio.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/voter-suppression... ...The Ohio law removed voters from eligibility for sitting out three election cycles and failing to respond to a state warning that their eligibility was at risk; this was proof enough, the state said, that the voters had moved elsewhere. Ohio says the law is no more than housekeeping, an effort to tidy up the rolls, not voter suppression. But the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled last September that it violated federal law protecting registrants who choose not to vote.... (One of several specific measures noted.)
- desertrider12 9y ago
  More importantly, anti voter fraud laws are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    What do you mean by that statement? Are you suggesting voter fraud doesn't exist?
    - meowface 9y ago
      It exists but is (currently) so rare that most of the solutions create far more problems than the actual problem itself.
      - ZenoArrow 9y ago
        What about voting machine hacks, do they count as voter fraud? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activists-sued-georgias-election-server-was-wiped-clean/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activ... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/29/us_voting_machines_hacking/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/29/us_voting_machines_...
        dredmorbius 9y ago
        I'd have to confirm, but I think most people consider "voter fraud" to be fraud conducted individually by voters. The claim that voter IDs are required is a putative measure against this. Thing is, that fraud is exceedingly expensive to conduct relative to impacts. Voting machine hacks are wholesale to voter fraud's retail, and can swing far more votes, within or across multiple states. Systemic suppression methods, including role exclusion, gerrymandering, and the like, are also similarly far more efficient.
    - digitalzombie 9y ago
      It exist but it's not statistically significant enough. It certainly doesn't warrant the huge drawbacks of disinfranchising voters.
amalcon 9y ago
So, dredmorbius has quite a list there, but those are things that would be outside the purview of an election judge. I was mainly referring to things like intimidation at the polling places (I know people who've experienced this) or removing relevant signage (which I've witnessed, and called the police).

I am genuinely curious why you are unable to google what is preventing people from voting? Are you on Gab?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_Unite... 1 Methods 1.1 Impediments to voter registration 1.2 Photo ID laws 1.3 Purging of voter rolls 1.4 Limitations on early voting 1.5 Felon disenfranchisement 1.6 Transgender disenfranchisement 1.7 Disinformation about voting procedures 1.8 Inequality in Election Day resources 1.9 Closure of DMV offices 1.10 Caging lists 1.11 Gerrymandering 1.12 Jim Crow laws 1.13 Off-year elections https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/voter-suppression-diaries-save-democracy-we-need https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-sup... In 2017, at least 99 bills that restrict access to registration and voting were introduced in 31 states. Thirty-two states have some form of voter ID law currently in effect. These ID laws don’t affect all people equally: people of color, low-income people, the elderly, students, and people with disabilities disproportionately lack the types of IDs that states deem acceptable. http://projectcensored.org/the-right-to-vote-a-candid-history-of-voter-suppression-in-the-united-states/ http://projectcensored.org/the-right-to-vote-a-candid-histor... In 2012, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) influenced several states to pass restrictive voter ID laws, which particularly impacted low-income voters, people with disabilities, and voters of color. Electoral reform is needed, López reports. Elections and the fight for voting rights are tools to be used to bring about revolutionary change and real democracy for the multiracial working class. There has not been any corporate media coverage of this story as of March 19, 2012. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/voter-suppression-trump-commission-ohio.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/voter-suppression... ...The Ohio law removed voters from eligibility for sitting out three election cycles and failing to respond to a state warning that their eligibility was at risk; this was proof enough, the state said, that the voters had moved elsewhere. Ohio says the law is no more than housekeeping, an effort to tidy up the rolls, not voter suppression. But the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled last September that it violated federal law protecting registrants who choose not to vote.... (One of several specific measures noted.)

desertrider12 9y ago
More importantly, anti voter fraud laws are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  What do you mean by that statement? Are you suggesting voter fraud doesn't exist?
  - meowface 9y ago
    It exists but is (currently) so rare that most of the solutions create far more problems than the actual problem itself.
    - ZenoArrow 9y ago
      What about voting machine hacks, do they count as voter fraud? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activists-sued-georgias-election-server-was-wiped-clean/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activ... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/29/us_voting_machines_hacking/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/29/us_voting_machines_...
      - dredmorbius 9y ago
        I'd have to confirm, but I think most people consider "voter fraud" to be fraud conducted individually by voters. The claim that voter IDs are required is a putative measure against this. Thing is, that fraud is exceedingly expensive to conduct relative to impacts. Voting machine hacks are wholesale to voter fraud's retail, and can swing far more votes, within or across multiple states. Systemic suppression methods, including role exclusion, gerrymandering, and the like, are also similarly far more efficient.
  - digitalzombie 9y ago
    It exist but it's not statistically significant enough. It certainly doesn't warrant the huge drawbacks of disinfranchising voters.

amalcon 9y ago

So, dredmorbius has quite a list there, but those are things that would be outside the purview of an election judge. I was mainly referring to things like intimidation at the polling places (I know people who've experienced this) or removing relevant signage (which I've witnessed, and called the police).