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Not one word of apology from Apple! The workaround involves turning off notifications individually for every app, and then turning them on after the update. If
by Karupan 9y ago
Not one word of apology from Apple! The workaround involves turning off notifications individually for every app, and then turning them on after the update. If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake. But we somehow let Apple get away with it.
- sneak 9y ago“somehow”, as if Apple hasn’t been saving us a million tiny headaches a day (vs linux or windows or android) via software engineering for twenty+ years.
- ClassyJacket 9y agoWould we? We didn't burn LG at the stake for bootloops. We don't burn Microsoft at the stake for updating Windows 1p in the middle of work. Plenty of Android phones have had problems. If anything I feel like Apple gets more flak for every little thing, it just so happens this week they've had two genuinely really bad ones.
- JHonaker 9y agoLet's not forget that other than people being a bit mad, all those bulging battery packs from Samsung seems to be largely, and quickly, forgotten. I even saw a review of the new one that had a "Doesn't explode" in the Pros column.
- lern_too_spel 9y agoNobody made excuses for Samsung, which finally couldn't market its way out of being regarded as one of the poorest quality Android phone manufacturers that sells in the US. I'll put the reaction to Apple's screwups on the same level as the reaction to LG's when I see a class action lawsuit.
- bsimpson 9y agoThe Verge just named the Samsung S8 the second best phone you can buy right now, after the iPhone X: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/24/15914934/best-smartphone-apple-ios-google-android https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/24/15914934/best-smartphone-...
- lern_too_spel 9y agoTwo of the worst quality phones available, as we all now know. This only reflects poorly on The Verge.
- derefr 9y agoPlease name the phone that is in your opinion the best quality phone available, to calibrate this statement.
- lern_too_spel 9y agoI'm skipping this generation unless I see some compelling reason to upgrade, so I don't know which the best is, but it's hard not to know the worst quality if you're not blinded by fanboyism, with Samsung's consistency in this area and Apple's recent strong showing. Despite always lagging in usefulness, Apple used to have quality control down.
- derefr 9y agoI think, if you paid attention to the other brands, using the same strict criteria you're applying here, you'd decide they were horrible as well, for their own reasons; and, I would guess, probably more horrible than most products by either Samsung or Apple. Something doesn't have to be good in any objective sense, to be the best. If everything is bad, a very bad thing can still be "the best."
- lern_too_spel 9y agoStrict criteria? We're talking boot loops, keyboards that replace the letter i, and exploding batteries, just to name some recent examples. I do actual work from my phone, and I wouldn't be able to work under those conditions. I do not have fanboyism to fall back on to feel good about my purchase.
- systoll 9y agoThe iPhone 4's antenna issues lead to a class action, resulting in claimants getting a free bumper case or $15.
- felipelemos 9y agohttp://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-macbook-battery-exploded/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-macbook-battery-exploded/ Samsung is not an exclusive offender with exploding things.
- JHonaker 9y agoI forgot about that too. My dad had that issue on his MBP. Took it in and they did the repair for free. That was my point though. People make a big scuttlebutt over these things, but they're quickly forgotten and don't doom a company forever.
- asdjasldkjkljd 9y agoI wish I could burn LG at the stake for bootloops
- tigershark 9y agoThis doesn't seem a little thing to me. I use Apple primarily because I don't want headaches. But apparently every major iOS release is getting always worse, especially if you have "old" devices (calling old a phone from 2 years ago is kind of a stretch). I postponed my update because I read about the crippling battery life problems, and now there is also this bootloop...
- gaius 9y agoBut hey, animated poop icon. Apple's priorities are clear, or Tim Cook's anyway.
- lexicality 9y agoThe Pixel and Surface book are reaching out to you with open arms and a slightly predatory smile on their faces.
- IBM 9y agoThe thing is there's lots of schadenfreude whenever Apple stumbles. Part of that is just being king of the hill for so long. But even before that Apple always chafed nerds because of how they came at computing (appliance-like) and the whole intersection of liberal arts and technology thing which targets a mainstream audience. That changed in the early to mid 2000s because of OSX and the Intel switch, suddenly a lot more nerds started buying Apple stuff. But Apple didn't really court them, they just switched because Apple's implementation details (NeXT underpinning and Intel) attracted them. A lot of nerds, including myself, had a change in outlook to Apple's perspective once they switched, but a lot of them still have your classic nerd outlook. That's the root cause of a lot of things (like the MBP teeth gnashing).
- blinkingled 9y agoNo, they're mad because they were sold the benefits of vertical integration, tight control, limited options etc leading to better user experience albeit at higher prices. The better user experience part is not holding up in recent reality and people are rightfully dissatisfied. You've to remember people pay premium prices for Apple stuff. If I buy a $300 Moto whatever I'm much less inclined to complain if it breaks vs when I'm buying a $800+ iDevice.
- ratsimihah 9y agoJust gonna stay on IOS 10 for a while longer.
- anthmcc 9y agoApple really needs to refocus on making good software, instead of just forcing updates for the sake of change. They are becoming a complete joke. Unfortunately there are no alternatives I'm willing to accept anymore.
- seasonalgrit 9y ago" If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake." Nah. Look at Samsung: you can make a TV that spies on you, a washing machine that explodes, and a smartphone that spontaneously catches on fire. And then go take a look at how their stock is doing this year. We've reached the pavlovian phase of western consumer culture: we'll just keep on buying and buying and buying, no matter what.
- carlivar 9y agoI think the difference is that these problems are magnified in the press but are still rather rare. It is first hand experience that breaks the pavlovian cycle. Americans started buying Japanese cars because so many of them had direct poor experiences with American quality in the 70's to 90's. I don't think that has necessarily happened with Samsung, yet.
- perfectstorm 9y ago> Nah. Look at Samsung: ... and a smartphone that spontaneously catches on fire. they did get a lot of bad PR for that and it was running joke in the tech industry and it still is even though they have recalled the faulty devices.
- pfarnsworth 9y agoThat is the power of the Virtuous Circle that they have created for themselves. It shows the capacity for consumers to forgive, and where forgiveness is divine. This is in direct contrast to companies that have fucked up public trust, like Uber, Equifax, Comcast, etc where every single little thing is confirmation that they are the Devil Incarnate.
- bpanon 9y agoMost people (+80%) noticed nothing.
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- megablast 9y agoSure, like Samsung was burnt at the stake for exploding phones. Clearly this is way worse.
- zeep 9y agoI never liked Apple products because of all the restrictions, but since Steve Jobs is gone (a few years later, actually), Apple appears to have taken a whole other route...