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If your argument is “these people should feel differently”, then you have already lost. Their votes and community involvement are, in the end, the only things t
by archagon 9y ago
If your argument is “these people should feel differently”, then you have already lost. Their votes and community involvement are, in the end, the only things that matter. Your principles mean nothing; they need to be convinced.
- ryguytilidie 9y agoThis is the biggest failing of modern debate. It seems like we've thrown compassion and putting ourselves in other people's shoes and now just say "your view is stupid, change it". Imagine someone presenting that to you? Is your immediate thought "hm, you're right! convincing point!" or "Go fuck yourself"?
- nasredin 9y agoIt seems that reluctance to consider other views is closely related to the level of education, and place of upbringing. This IS not a failing in modern debate, but a much bigger issue. I have seen less educated people show zero empathy for the opposing side many more times than the reverse. Also you cannot have debates with some people, e.g. right wing authoritarians. Some people are just born that way.
- mantas 9y agoEducated left wingers seem to be most ignorant tbh.
- ericd 9y agoRight, it's not about education as much as it is knowing people who don't share the same views as you. If everyone you know thinks the same way you do (which is as common among left wingers as right), then it's much easier to believe that people who don't share your views must be insane/less than human/your enemy.
- fiter 9y agoFrom the article, it turns out that their opinions eventually did not matter. It would be nice to change their opinion at least so they aren't bitter about it.