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Immigration =/= breeding. High fertility rates usually mean: - People are having more children to provide manual labor. - People are getting together with ea
by idrios 9y ago
Immigration =/= breeding.
High fertility rates usually mean:
- People are having more children to provide manual labor.
- People are getting together with each other because they don't have as many distractions from the modern world.
- People haven't been taught safe sex or don't have access to protection.
- The culture of a region hasn't caught up with the times.
High immigration usually means:
- The nation is a desirable place to move to.
- Successful immigrants to that nation are bringing valuable and useful skills.
I agree with your point that adding more people strengthens the economy when most of those people are contributing to the GDP (and weaken the economy if they consume more than they produce), but I am bothered by your absolutisms ("This is completely false" | "Most nations become rich by 'adding bodies' [...] and nothing else"). High immigration is a symptom of an already strong economy, and high fertility is often a symptom of a developing economy.
- alexasmyths 9y agoI don't agree - and your comment is borderline bigoted. :) My grandmother had 11 children, and educated them all quite ably. First - breeding is far more preferable than immigration because there are myriads of cultural aspects that newcomers will not ever fathom as most adult immigrants will never fully integrate into a new society. In Canada - significant numbers of newcomers will never even achieve basic French/English comprehension skills - even if it's only 5%, they cannot participate in the economy and it crushes 'productivity' numbers for that cohort. Even in 'successful' immigration countries like Canada - rates of unemployment are higher, wages are lower, and rates of criminality are higher for immigrants than for natural born citizens (not including Aboriginals). FYI the 'civilized' people who have all discovered 'contraception' are literally dying out within just a few generations. The only way those communities can exist is by bringing in immigrants who 'haven't been taught safe sex or behind the times'. Issues of 'personal choice and freedom' aside - the issue of birth control is having effects upon civilization like nothing we've even before. Add this to places like Africa, wherein we now can feed and clothe vast quantities of people, and wherein having quantities of children outside of established families / employment is normative leading to population explosions in poverty. These are wild times. Westerners should have a little bit more children, everyone else a few less, and things would work out just a little bit better, tensions would be lower, productivity would be better.
- mythrwy 9y agoHow about Mormons? They aren't behind the times (as long at "times" doesn't mean promiscuous sex and drinking), not uneducated, don't more kids for manual labor. And I'm sure they know about birth control. But many of them have a lot of kids.