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If you want to understand why protesting can be inneffective, I highly recommend "Twitter and Tear Gas" by Zeynep Tufekci (https://www.twitterandteargas.org/ ht

If you want to understand why protesting can be inneffective, I highly recommend "Twitter and Tear Gas" by Zeynep Tufekci (https://www.twitterandteargas.org/ https://www.twitterandteargas.org/ with CC version available - but buy it!). One important factor: protests are only effective if they demonstrate the ability of the movement to affect elections. There are multiple reasons why the senate is not concerned and they're all... highly concerning.

adamnemecek 9y ago
> One important factor: protests are only effective if they demonstrate the ability of the movement to affect elections. There are multiple reasons why the senate is not concerned and they're all... highly concerning. Indeed. Furthermore an angry mob literally at the foot steps of the capitol. For a month. Angry as shit crowd. They need to pass through you. There aren't enough cops to arrest all of you in the entirety of the DC area. Don't break laws though. Wait for them to do that. Furthermore, I've been intrigued by Vaclav Havels (there were more people involved) idea of Parallel Polis. https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/vaclav-havels-lessons-on-how-to-create-a-parallel-polis https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/vaclav-havels-le... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis Basically slowly create a parallel government that offers competing services. You can start small. Offer healthcare at competitive price for those who pay you "taxes". If I could pay two grand a year and get some perks (some sort of healthcare and over time more) out of it I would definitely consider it. Provide accredited education (over internet? idk). I believe having read somewhere that the US legal framework allows for this if you establish yourself as a Native American tribe as they can get out of quite a few obligations to the state and federal governments.
- anigbrowl 9y ago
  There is merit to this idea and it has the potential to be highly effective but also highly destablizing, in both positive and negative ways.
  - adamnemecek 9y ago
    Some destabilization is possibly needed. Like you have to raise to rebuild.
    - anigbrowl 9y ago
      I quite agree but if I were to go into detail about my thoughts on this it would quickly be flagged into invisibility :) You're welcome to drop me a line.

adamnemecek 9y ago

> One important factor: protests are only effective if they demonstrate the ability of the movement to affect elections. There are multiple reasons why the senate is not concerned and they're all... highly concerning. Indeed. Furthermore an angry mob literally at the foot steps of the capitol. For a month. Angry as shit crowd. They need to pass through you. There aren't enough cops to arrest all of you in the entirety of the DC area. Don't break laws though. Wait for them to do that. Furthermore, I've been intrigued by Vaclav Havels (there were more people involved) idea of Parallel Polis. https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/vaclav-havels-lessons-on-how-to-create-a-parallel-polis https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/vaclav-havels-le... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis Basically slowly create a parallel government that offers competing services. You can start small. Offer healthcare at competitive price for those who pay you "taxes". If I could pay two grand a year and get some perks (some sort of healthcare and over time more) out of it I would definitely consider it. Provide accredited education (over internet? idk). I believe having read somewhere that the US legal framework allows for this if you establish yourself as a Native American tribe as they can get out of quite a few obligations to the state and federal governments.

anigbrowl 9y ago
There is merit to this idea and it has the potential to be highly effective but also highly destablizing, in both positive and negative ways.
- adamnemecek 9y ago
  Some destabilization is possibly needed. Like you have to raise to rebuild.
  - anigbrowl 9y ago
    I quite agree but if I were to go into detail about my thoughts on this it would quickly be flagged into invisibility :) You're welcome to drop me a line.