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ahh, just noticed a problem for me - I've transitioned to using Spotify instead of iTunes... Service sounds intriguing though - i would recommend integration wi

by pclark 16y ago

ahh, just noticed a problem for me - I've transitioned to using Spotify instead of iTunes... Service sounds intriguing though - i would recommend integration with Last.FM for scrobblers. Also, there are tons of 3rd party scrobblers for Mac. iScrobbler is pretty decent. I don't meant to sound negative. I think Last.FM has sewn up the "data" space (eg: what I'm playing, top artists) - but it sucks for recommendations, social, and everything else. It isn't clear to me how your service is different to Last.FM in terms of setup. EG: I'm not a Last.FM user ... am I going to use your service, instead? Saying only 2 of my friends use x service so I made a competitor for them to use seems like mildly false logic. In these spaces I'd like to see something that works around the barrier to entry (requiring a scrobbler of some sort)

chrischen 16y ago
That's exactly where I'm going to hit hard: social. Integrating with Last.fm is a great idea. I honestly never event thought of that.
- pclark 16y ago
  check out Spotify if you can, they've made sharing tracks super easy - but suck at the Last.FM bits. As a music junkie I use a few services: Last.FM for the data (on me & friends (but not Facebook friends...)) Spotify for playback and sharing songs to friends (but not Last.FM friends - Facebook friends) Hype Machine for hot music recently (scrobbled to Last.FM) The huge weak spot is recommendations. Where do I go for artists like Eminem? I currently use the Spotify related artists page, boy does it suck. Actually, I also use What.CD for music recommendations.. This is what What.CD suggests for Eminem: http://grab.by/5MLs http://grab.by/5MLs and this is what Spotify suggests for Eminem: http://grab.by/5MLu http://grab.by/5MLu Neither brilliant, honestly. So yes - recommendations - valuable. Powered by my friends, what's hot, and algo for similar. Make a Pandora Radio minus the Radio bit, sounds useful. Maybe a weekly digest of similar artists I'll enjoy based on what I listened to this week.
  - chrischen 16y ago
    I think artist recommendations is a different beast from user recommendations. Recommending similar users is something relatively easy and the main roadblock right now is there not being enough users. But if I go into artist recommendations (as opposed to general new song recommendation and recommending other users), I'd take the same approach and do something much more dynamic than a fixed list of similar artists. So perhaps taking the subset of users who like Eminem A LOT and taking their top tracks under the same genre, merging them (as if you followed them), and providing that as a list of similar trending artists.
chrischen 16y ago
The anecdotal evidence about none of my friends using last.fm was really meant to state the nicheness of last.fm. That is, I wanted to create something transparent that a wider less dedicated audience can use.

by pclark 16y ago

chrischen 16y ago

That's exactly where I'm going to hit hard: social. Integrating with Last.fm is a great idea. I honestly never event thought of that.

pclark 16y ago
check out Spotify if you can, they've made sharing tracks super easy - but suck at the Last.FM bits. As a music junkie I use a few services: Last.FM for the data (on me & friends (but not Facebook friends...)) Spotify for playback and sharing songs to friends (but not Last.FM friends - Facebook friends) Hype Machine for hot music recently (scrobbled to Last.FM) The huge weak spot is recommendations. Where do I go for artists like Eminem? I currently use the Spotify related artists page, boy does it suck. Actually, I also use What.CD for music recommendations.. This is what What.CD suggests for Eminem: http://grab.by/5MLs http://grab.by/5MLs and this is what Spotify suggests for Eminem: http://grab.by/5MLu http://grab.by/5MLu Neither brilliant, honestly. So yes - recommendations - valuable. Powered by my friends, what's hot, and algo for similar. Make a Pandora Radio minus the Radio bit, sounds useful. Maybe a weekly digest of similar artists I'll enjoy based on what I listened to this week.
- chrischen 16y ago
  I think artist recommendations is a different beast from user recommendations. Recommending similar users is something relatively easy and the main roadblock right now is there not being enough users. But if I go into artist recommendations (as opposed to general new song recommendation and recommending other users), I'd take the same approach and do something much more dynamic than a fixed list of similar artists. So perhaps taking the subset of users who like Eminem A LOT and taking their top tracks under the same genre, merging them (as if you followed them), and providing that as a list of similar trending artists.

chrischen 16y ago

The anecdotal evidence about none of my friends using last.fm was really meant to state the nicheness of last.fm. That is, I wanted to create something transparent that a wider less dedicated audience can use.