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The problem is that the first group is lumped into the second one. I live in the Midwest, which by all rights is a very conservative region of the country even

The problem is that the first group is lumped into the second one. I live in the Midwest, which by all rights is a very conservative region of the country even in the urbanized areas, and conservatives are generally regarded by liberals as bumpkins that accidentally wandered into the city, even when re-iterating their disapproval of racism, sexism, and the alt-right until blue (ha) in the face. This is what's driving classical conservatives into the closet, and potentially causing them to actually embrace the more extremist ideologies.

irhd 9y ago
> The problem is that the first group is lumped into the second one. Why wouldn't they be? The "crazy" ones aren't being elected by no one. They rose to power because voters embraced them. If you don't want to be lumped in as crazy then quit supporting crazy. > potentially causing them to actually embrace the more extremist ideologies. I really, really hate this argument. It's just trying to absolve people of their responsibility for choosing white nationalism and other reprehensible ideas. If you joined up because some arrogant jerk offended you one day then maybe you weren't a very good person to begin with. Besides, how many liberals do you see pushing hateful ideologies and communism because they are sick of being called arrogant elites?
- deadmetheny 9y ago
  >Why wouldn't they be? The "crazy" ones aren't being elected by no one. They rose to power because voters embraced them. If you don't want to be lumped in as crazy then quit supporting crazy I don't disagree that the Republican party has been hijacked. Personally, I am non-partisan and generally will vote for whichever candidates lean more towards a liberal-libertarian platform, be they R or D. Lately, that's been a lot more D than R. >If you joined up because some arrogant jerk offended you one day then maybe you weren't a very good person to begin with Hatred and ostracization make people go to very dark places. A lot of people are lumping people who ideologically believe in lower taxes and fewer government services with white supremacists. I'm obviously not condoning people going to those places, but acting like putting these people on blast and calling them awful because their beliefs partially overlap with those of a genuinely awful group of people is at the least not constructive.
  - RickJWag 9y ago
    +1
- libertyEQ 9y ago
  Communism is authoritarian, and therefore, anti-liberal.

irhd 9y ago

> The problem is that the first group is lumped into the second one. Why wouldn't they be? The "crazy" ones aren't being elected by no one. They rose to power because voters embraced them. If you don't want to be lumped in as crazy then quit supporting crazy. > potentially causing them to actually embrace the more extremist ideologies. I really, really hate this argument. It's just trying to absolve people of their responsibility for choosing white nationalism and other reprehensible ideas. If you joined up because some arrogant jerk offended you one day then maybe you weren't a very good person to begin with. Besides, how many liberals do you see pushing hateful ideologies and communism because they are sick of being called arrogant elites?

deadmetheny 9y ago
>Why wouldn't they be? The "crazy" ones aren't being elected by no one. They rose to power because voters embraced them. If you don't want to be lumped in as crazy then quit supporting crazy I don't disagree that the Republican party has been hijacked. Personally, I am non-partisan and generally will vote for whichever candidates lean more towards a liberal-libertarian platform, be they R or D. Lately, that's been a lot more D than R. >If you joined up because some arrogant jerk offended you one day then maybe you weren't a very good person to begin with Hatred and ostracization make people go to very dark places. A lot of people are lumping people who ideologically believe in lower taxes and fewer government services with white supremacists. I'm obviously not condoning people going to those places, but acting like putting these people on blast and calling them awful because their beliefs partially overlap with those of a genuinely awful group of people is at the least not constructive.
- RickJWag 9y ago
  +1
libertyEQ 9y ago
Communism is authoritarian, and therefore, anti-liberal.