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How police used a traffic stop to take $91,800 from an innocent man
- peapicker 9y agoNo one should carry that much in cash ever.
- angersock 9y agoThat's their decision to make. And why not? It's their money.
- mc32 9y agoThere was a lottery winner somewhere who casually carried a few hundred thousand with him in his pickup truck. Parked it in front of a strip club. It got stolen, thieves got his truck and money. May have recovered some, but lots of people thought it was foolish to do so. Even if that's anyone's right. It's just an anecdote, and not trying to sway one way or the other.
- valuearb 9y agoThat lottery winner was worth tens of millions, pretty sure he didn't miss it.
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- mrguyorama 9y agoThat alone is not just cause to seize it
- tdb7893 9y agoIt's foolish but you should have to worry about a thief taking it, not a police officer
- kylehotchkiss 9y agoThese mid-USA civil asset forfeiture cases are definitely escalating. It's very wise to not carry cash across the USA on a road trip. Of course, banks are going to tell the Government if you transfer more than $10,000, but at least the paper trail is there in your statements if you had to justify it.
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- babaganoosh89 9y agoParhamovich said he prefers having his cash with him on hand in case opportunities present themselves to buy, for example, new instruments. Civil forfeiture is shady as hell, but his reasoning for regularly carrying that much cash is flimsier than a chromebook.
- valuearb 9y agoHe can state any legal reason he chooses. It gives the police no right to take it from him.
- tomohawk 9y agoThe best way to avoid civil asset forfeiture in a traffic stop is to just not ever answer any nosy questions the officer may ask. When pulled over, never answer questions. You don't have to. If the police officer asks you to remain once they've written the ticket, ask if you're being detained or if you're free to go. Once they've written the ticket, the stop is over, but aggressive police will try to fool people into thinking the stop is not over. The longer they can keep you there, the more pressure they can apply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk
- valuearb 9y agoNot only should you not answer questions at a traffic stop, you should never talk to the police under any circumstances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
- ehnto 9y agoIs that really the practical/reasonable thing to do? It's also going to differ per state whether or not you can ignore their requests and not unnecessarily escalate the situation. And if you did brake a traffic law, recieve the ticket. Say hey officer, sorry about that thing we both know I just did. If they probe further or try to search your car then stand your ground.
- valuearb 9y agoWatch the traffic stop video if it's a traffic stop. But watch the video I posted for everything else. If they are looking for a suspect, be very wary. Some cops ain't exactly looking for the right suspect, just anyone who can fit.
- nyle 9y ago> Is that really the practical/reasonable thing to do? It's also going to differ per state whether or not you can ignore their requests and not unnecessarily escalate the situation. The guy had the right to remain silent, and he exercised it appropriately. Usually the people in these stories do boneheaded shit that earn them their outcome. He admitted nothing, so they brought in the dog and faked the results to justify a search. At that point his testimony doesn't really matter-- the dog gave them probable cause to search. He did everything he should have done in this situation, including standing his ground-- unfortuantely your rights have limits when the cop you're dealing with is bent. The only boneheaded thing he did was to sign the waiver, which very clearly stated in bold letters that he was relinquishing his rights over the money.
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- danjoc 9y agoTLDR; >Parhamovich said the money was a friend’s.
- superbrama 9y agoHe needs an indisputable paper trail showing that the money was his. That’s a lot of cash and there’s little reason to keep all of your legitimate fiat savings in cash like that.
- URSpider94 9y agoI’m not sure of how to read your post, but you seem to be implying that the burden is on him to prove that the money is his, when he wasn’t doing anything illegal by carrying it, and nobody has alleged otherwise.
- superbrama 9y agoHe already said it wasn’t his and that he didn’t know how it was hidden in his car. Whether under duress or not, the authorities aren’t giving the money back as a result. Such proof is now needed.