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I thought this was a nothingburger though? Or is this another example of fake news? Or just another diversion to stop us talking about uranium and emails? I'm

by orf 9y ago

I thought this was a nothingburger though? Or is this another example of fake news? Or just another diversion to stop us talking about uranium and emails? I'm guessing Trump will have another meltdown very soon to try and take up some news time.

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g09980 9y ago
"The special counsel charged that Flynn lied about not asking then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on December 29, 2016, and saying he did not recall that Kislyak told him Russia would moderate its response as a result." What does this have to do with the elections?
- dboreham 9y ago
  It's the other stuff Flynn is going to testify about that concerns the election. This charge is something minimal they came up with to seal the plea deal.
  - iokevins 9y ago
    And leave open the possibility of subsequently bringing the other charges, in case of pardon or if he doesn't follow-through
- actsasbuffoon 9y ago
  That's how plea deals work. They charge you with fewer crimes in exchange for testimony that incriminates people higher up the ladder.
electrograv 9y ago
Well, it turns out it actually was fake news (ABC just retracted it): https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/936805557029048321 https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/936805557029048321 You’ll probably want to pick another day to sarcastically mock people who distrust the “mainstream media”.
- orf 9y ago
  Your confusing a correction with a redaction. I'd say it's pretty misleading (even fake) of you to attempt to signal that NBC retracted the entire story when the link you provided states that they made a mistake with only one element, and have published a correction. Hmmm. It's also unrelated to this hnews post, a lot of other sources didn't make this mistake. They also made the correction very quickly, and the entire premise of the article is still correct. All in all, your comment contains more fake news than the article. Will you redact it?
  - electrograv 9y ago
    If we want to get semantically nitpickey, you are confusing redaction with retraction, and “your” with “you’re” :P Obviously they didn’t retract the whole story, and I never said they did. I said they published fake news, and retracted it (the fake part, obviously). They retracted one of the two major claims you can see by just reading the headline. The entire headline was profoundly misleading. It would be like saying “Orf will testify that Person drove 120 miles per hour on the highway” but omitting the “while shut down for regular traffic and with the permission and guidance of the highway patrol”. It’s a lie by omission, and to call it anything else is naive. Looking into this further, it turns out the Obama administration in fact directly confirmed they have no problem with this happening during the transition. I’m not here to defend Trump, but this whole situation of reporting is deeply lacking in journalistic integrity.

by orf 9y ago

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g09980 9y ago

"The special counsel charged that Flynn lied about not asking then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on December 29, 2016, and saying he did not recall that Kislyak told him Russia would moderate its response as a result." What does this have to do with the elections?

dboreham 9y ago
It's the other stuff Flynn is going to testify about that concerns the election. This charge is something minimal they came up with to seal the plea deal.
- iokevins 9y ago
  And leave open the possibility of subsequently bringing the other charges, in case of pardon or if he doesn't follow-through
actsasbuffoon 9y ago
That's how plea deals work. They charge you with fewer crimes in exchange for testimony that incriminates people higher up the ladder.

electrograv 9y ago

Well, it turns out it actually was fake news (ABC just retracted it): https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/936805557029048321 https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/936805557029048321 You’ll probably want to pick another day to sarcastically mock people who distrust the “mainstream media”.

orf 9y ago
Your confusing a correction with a redaction. I'd say it's pretty misleading (even fake) of you to attempt to signal that NBC retracted the entire story when the link you provided states that they made a mistake with only one element, and have published a correction. Hmmm. It's also unrelated to this hnews post, a lot of other sources didn't make this mistake. They also made the correction very quickly, and the entire premise of the article is still correct. All in all, your comment contains more fake news than the article. Will you redact it?
- electrograv 9y ago
  If we want to get semantically nitpickey, you are confusing redaction with retraction, and “your” with “you’re” :P Obviously they didn’t retract the whole story, and I never said they did. I said they published fake news, and retracted it (the fake part, obviously). They retracted one of the two major claims you can see by just reading the headline. The entire headline was profoundly misleading. It would be like saying “Orf will testify that Person drove 120 miles per hour on the highway” but omitting the “while shut down for regular traffic and with the permission and guidance of the highway patrol”. It’s a lie by omission, and to call it anything else is naive. Looking into this further, it turns out the Obama administration in fact directly confirmed they have no problem with this happening during the transition. I’m not here to defend Trump, but this whole situation of reporting is deeply lacking in journalistic integrity.