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Citations? AFAIK more men commit suicide so any inference drawn from such superficial statistics is going to be shaky at best...

by tomp 9y ago

DoreenMichele 9y ago
I am thinking of phenomenon like The Pink Collar Ghetto, The Second Shift and our latest, oft misused, buzz word "emotional labor." These are all well documented phenomenon that taking care of others at their own expense is a burden routinely placed on women in a way that does not get done to men. I am a woman. I was one of the top 3 students of my graduating high school class. I never got the serious career I wanted, nor the money that goes with such things. So I have read a lot of books and articles on women's issues over the years trying to sort out what on earth went wrong with my life and how can I fix it? But HN is overwhelmingly male. Trying to discuss such things here from a female perspective is quite challenging. The vast majority of replies will be openly hostile and dismissive. It is rare that anyone is genuinely curious why an educated woman who is the antithesis of a feminazi would think such a thing. Men here get incredibly defensive. Any whiff of the idea that "sexism" is a factor brings out the worst in comments. It is taken as an accusation that people are being intentionally and maliciously exclusionary. It makes it really hard to give a female point of view here at all, which tends to result in the gender based exclusion that people here seem to want to claim they aren't guilty of.
jdietrich 9y ago
Substantially more women than men attempt suicide; more men than women die by suicide, because they tend to choose far more lethal methods. Wrist-cutting and drug overdoses are preferred by women and have a survival rate of over 98%; firearms have a fatality rate of over 80%, while hanging has a fatality rate of over 60%. Suicide tends to be impulsive and 70% of people who survive a suicide attempt do not make a further attempt, so the lethality of the chosen method has a huge impact on completion rates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-...

Citations? AFAIK more men commit suicide so any inference drawn from such superficial statistics is going to be shaky at best...

by tomp 9y ago

Citations? AFAIK more men commit suicide so any inference drawn from such superficial statistics is going to be shaky at best...

DoreenMichele 9y ago

I am thinking of phenomenon like The Pink Collar Ghetto, The Second Shift and our latest, oft misused, buzz word "emotional labor." These are all well documented phenomenon that taking care of others at their own expense is a burden routinely placed on women in a way that does not get done to men. I am a woman. I was one of the top 3 students of my graduating high school class. I never got the serious career I wanted, nor the money that goes with such things. So I have read a lot of books and articles on women's issues over the years trying to sort out what on earth went wrong with my life and how can I fix it? But HN is overwhelmingly male. Trying to discuss such things here from a female perspective is quite challenging. The vast majority of replies will be openly hostile and dismissive. It is rare that anyone is genuinely curious why an educated woman who is the antithesis of a feminazi would think such a thing. Men here get incredibly defensive. Any whiff of the idea that "sexism" is a factor brings out the worst in comments. It is taken as an accusation that people are being intentionally and maliciously exclusionary. It makes it really hard to give a female point of view here at all, which tends to result in the gender based exclusion that people here seem to want to claim they aren't guilty of.

jdietrich 9y ago

Substantially more women than men attempt suicide; more men than women die by suicide, because they tend to choose far more lethal methods. Wrist-cutting and drug overdoses are preferred by women and have a survival rate of over 98%; firearms have a fatality rate of over 80%, while hanging has a fatality rate of over 60%. Suicide tends to be impulsive and 70% of people who survive a suicide attempt do not make a further attempt, so the lethality of the chosen method has a huge impact on completion rates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-...