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I sympathize with you. But you seem to be making the classic mistake of assuming that everyone's use-case and needs are same as yours. Just an example: > I'll

I sympathize with you. But you seem to be making the classic mistake of assuming that everyone's use-case and needs are same as yours. Just an example: > I'll walk over to the lightswitch and turn the lights on. What if you are someone who has trouble walking or has mobility issues. Can you imagine how convenient getting things done with voice could be? These sort of things can be life changing for some people.

npongratz 9y ago
The Clapper never needed to phone home to the mothership.
- bdamm 9y ago
  Modern voice activated neural nets don't either. I don't buy voice activated appliances specifically because they are online, but with a new generation of offline neural nets, I just may revisit that choice.
  - owlmirror 9y ago
    Offline IoT/smart appliances will never become viable again. They simply can't compete with products that mine and sell your data.
  - 2-4-Flinching 9y ago
    There will never be a new generation of offline neural nets. AI will need more and more horsepower as it evolves and that is more then what a normal household would want to spend. Cheap end devices are what the average buy is looking for. Internet bandwidth and speed are increasing and cheaper which was the main reason for offline in the past. There is also the fact that they don't have to support outdated or multiple versions of a server or distribute updates. The end devices like Google home, Echo and the video fire stick, Chromecast are basic input > send to server > output. That is cheaper to support. Plus you get all the data to improve your product. When I was young I setup up my first Home Server. Much like an enterprise server. It had share folders, computers backup to it, print server. Though it was the future and in a decade every house would have one. Now a days they don't but they do have stuff like Google Drive and Google Cloud Print and many more options that give you those options in the cloud.
- sumitgt 9y ago
  How many devices can you actually control with a clapper? Seems like it would only be enough if all you want is switch on/off a light bulb. But with smart home devices, you have much finer control over what device you want to control. How can someone do something fine grained like "Switch on external lights" or "show me who is at the door (Alexa does this)" with a clapper?
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npongratz 9y ago

The Clapper never needed to phone home to the mothership.

bdamm 9y ago
Modern voice activated neural nets don't either. I don't buy voice activated appliances specifically because they are online, but with a new generation of offline neural nets, I just may revisit that choice.
- owlmirror 9y ago
  Offline IoT/smart appliances will never become viable again. They simply can't compete with products that mine and sell your data.
- 2-4-Flinching 9y ago
  There will never be a new generation of offline neural nets. AI will need more and more horsepower as it evolves and that is more then what a normal household would want to spend. Cheap end devices are what the average buy is looking for. Internet bandwidth and speed are increasing and cheaper which was the main reason for offline in the past. There is also the fact that they don't have to support outdated or multiple versions of a server or distribute updates. The end devices like Google home, Echo and the video fire stick, Chromecast are basic input > send to server > output. That is cheaper to support. Plus you get all the data to improve your product. When I was young I setup up my first Home Server. Much like an enterprise server. It had share folders, computers backup to it, print server. Though it was the future and in a decade every house would have one. Now a days they don't but they do have stuff like Google Drive and Google Cloud Print and many more options that give you those options in the cloud.
sumitgt 9y ago
How many devices can you actually control with a clapper? Seems like it would only be enough if all you want is switch on/off a light bulb. But with smart home devices, you have much finer control over what device you want to control. How can someone do something fine grained like "Switch on external lights" or "show me who is at the door (Alexa does this)" with a clapper?

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