Seems like you narrowed the conversation when you said: > Rent seeking and hoarding demonstrably harm others. I don't agree with the other party that libertar

Seems like you narrowed the conversation when you said: > Rent seeking and hoarding demonstrably harm others. I don't agree with the other party that libertarians hate rent seeking, though. The most obvious example of rent-seeking is, well, rent - and I've never heard a libertarian speak against landlords.