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Combine Cloud9 with a $300 touchscreen Chromebook and that's a hell of an environment vs buying a $2000 Macbook.

twoquestions 9y ago
Between this and using Parsec for a remote gaming machine, I wonder if I'm wasting my money by buying a local gaming machine like it's 2006.
- jrs95 9y ago
  Remote gaming just still isn't there yet imo. Anything multiplayer has enough latency/unreliability issues as it is. Even gaming over WiFi as opposed to a wired connections will create all kinds of problems. I wouldn't want to introduce yet another variable into that.
Veen 9y ago
I was thinking this would be pretty nice combined with a 12.9 inch iPad Pro.
- suyash 9y ago
  Better with Tablet like iPad or Droid yes as you get more bang for your buck
- bdcravens 9y ago
  I tested (I’m sitting in Reinvent keynote with a 10” iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard) and it gets stuck on connecting.
  - barake 9y ago
    Twitter suggests they’re having load issues. Should have prewarmed those laps balancers!
    - robohoe 9y ago
      Or used the new Network Load Balancer (where prewarming is supposedly unnecessary).
sushisource 9y ago
Is it though? Eventually the ec2 costs will outstrip your savings on the macbook. $1500 a year ish for a reserved m4.large w/ 2 vCPU and 8G ram which seems about comparable. That math doesn't work unless you're buying a new macbook every 2 years. edit: This bit is interesting though: If you’re running in AWS the auto-hibernate feature will stop your instance shortly after you stop using your IDE. This can be a huge cost savings over running a more permanent developer desktop. So perhaps the cost is quite a bit lower.
- kayoone 9y ago
  You can also manually hibernate your instance once you are done with the work for the day. I also suspect you won't need anything like a m4.large for most dev environments but i see that you wanted some equivalent to a macbook pro, so that makes sense.
  - justin-8 9y ago
    The t2 family are probably closer most of the time. Once you factor in burst credits and the fact that it's pretty rare to be running your cpu at 70-100% all the time on your macbook either, it suddenly becomes a lot cheaper. You can't underprovision and resize local hardware, but you could start with a smaller instance and resize later if it turns out to be an issue.
- timdorr 9y ago
  If you use this for your day job (and you don't maintain crazy hours...), you'll be running ~180 hours per month on average. That's $17.28/mo or $207.36/yr for an m5.large. You can save a few bucks with a t2.large, but I think < $20/mo is something most businesses can cover (again, assuming this is for your day job).
Techonomicon 9y ago
This assumes you do no work outside of that slim vertical, experimenting with different languages for others sorts of projects, etc. But sure, if that is your life, or your very strict work life, I guess it can work fine. Would never be able to work for me since I tinker with so much random shit.
dragonwriter 9y ago
But how does it compare to, say, Codenvy.io + a $300 touchscreen Chromebook? Cloud9 isn't the only cloud dev environment out there.
- threatofrain 9y ago
  Apparently Code Envy is about to be snatched up by RedHat! All these companies are being bought up!
  - williamstein 9y ago
    https://blog.codenvy.com/redhat-acquires-codenvy-c84e1202a042 https://blog.codenvy.com/redhat-acquires-codenvy-c84e1202a04...

Between this and using Parsec for a remote gaming machine, I wonder if I'm wasting my money by buying a local gaming machine like it's 2006.

jrs95 9y ago
Remote gaming just still isn't there yet imo. Anything multiplayer has enough latency/unreliability issues as it is. Even gaming over WiFi as opposed to a wired connections will create all kinds of problems. I wouldn't want to introduce yet another variable into that.

Veen 9y ago

I was thinking this would be pretty nice combined with a 12.9 inch iPad Pro.

suyash 9y ago
Better with Tablet like iPad or Droid yes as you get more bang for your buck
bdcravens 9y ago
I tested (I’m sitting in Reinvent keynote with a 10” iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard) and it gets stuck on connecting.
- barake 9y ago
  Twitter suggests they’re having load issues. Should have prewarmed those laps balancers!
  - robohoe 9y ago
    Or used the new Network Load Balancer (where prewarming is supposedly unnecessary).

sushisource 9y ago

Is it though? Eventually the ec2 costs will outstrip your savings on the macbook. $1500 a year ish for a reserved m4.large w/ 2 vCPU and 8G ram which seems about comparable. That math doesn't work unless you're buying a new macbook every 2 years. edit: This bit is interesting though: If you’re running in AWS the auto-hibernate feature will stop your instance shortly after you stop using your IDE. This can be a huge cost savings over running a more permanent developer desktop. So perhaps the cost is quite a bit lower.

kayoone 9y ago
You can also manually hibernate your instance once you are done with the work for the day. I also suspect you won't need anything like a m4.large for most dev environments but i see that you wanted some equivalent to a macbook pro, so that makes sense.
- justin-8 9y ago
  The t2 family are probably closer most of the time. Once you factor in burst credits and the fact that it's pretty rare to be running your cpu at 70-100% all the time on your macbook either, it suddenly becomes a lot cheaper. You can't underprovision and resize local hardware, but you could start with a smaller instance and resize later if it turns out to be an issue.
timdorr 9y ago
If you use this for your day job (and you don't maintain crazy hours...), you'll be running ~180 hours per month on average. That's $17.28/mo or $207.36/yr for an m5.large. You can save a few bucks with a t2.large, but I think < $20/mo is something most businesses can cover (again, assuming this is for your day job).

Techonomicon 9y ago

This assumes you do no work outside of that slim vertical, experimenting with different languages for others sorts of projects, etc. But sure, if that is your life, or your very strict work life, I guess it can work fine. Would never be able to work for me since I tinker with so much random shit.

dragonwriter 9y ago

But how does it compare to, say, Codenvy.io + a $300 touchscreen Chromebook? Cloud9 isn't the only cloud dev environment out there.

threatofrain 9y ago
Apparently Code Envy is about to be snatched up by RedHat! All these companies are being bought up!
- williamstein 9y ago
  https://blog.codenvy.com/redhat-acquires-codenvy-c84e1202a042 https://blog.codenvy.com/redhat-acquires-codenvy-c84e1202a04...