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It's weird for a bug fix I wrote to be top of the list of features. PHP 7.2 is not the most eventful release.

by TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago

pgl 9y ago
How comes a bug fix has an RFC?
- TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
  It's a long-standing and documented issue; there wasn't the will to fix it. In that sense it's “not” a bug. It's also, well, just complicated and potentially controversial enough (significant performance decrease!) to warrant one.
Narutu 9y ago
Yes, strange for a bug fix to be top of a list of features, however... I don't agree that it's "not the most eventful" release:- libsodium being included into the core is a big tick in the box in terms of maturing as a language; modern - secure - cryptography out of the box.
- weberc2 9y ago
  I'm surprised PHP hasn't had this for a while. Isn't PHP nearly 20 years old? Is it common for web languages to grow so old before they get crypto in the standard library?
  - Narutu 9y ago
    You are right, of course, but nonetheless this is a significant step forward for the language (and the ecosystem as a whole). I do hope that - just like yourself, I am sure - the next significant step is more organically and proactively developed, and not treated (at least in the wider communtity's eyes) as a belated addition to a bewildered leviathan.
  - Can_Not 9y ago
    > PHP 7.2: The First Programming Language to Add Modern Cryptography to its Standard Library https://dev.to/paragonie/php-72-the-first-programming-language-to-add-modern-cryptography-to-its-standard-library https://dev.to/paragonie/php-72-the-first-programming-langua...
    - weberc2 9y ago
      Ok, but that's different from including crypto at all. I'm surprised Go uses those algorithms in its standard library TLS stack, but they're not made available as part of the standard crypto packages...
      - Can_Not 9y ago
        OpenSSL and Mcrypt have been available for the longest time, I don't know if that counts if we word-lawyer "Standard Library" but it definitely felt like that way.

It's weird for a bug fix I wrote to be top of the list of features. PHP 7.2 is not the most eventful release.

pgl 9y ago

How comes a bug fix has an RFC?

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
It's a long-standing and documented issue; there wasn't the will to fix it. In that sense it's “not” a bug. It's also, well, just complicated and potentially controversial enough (significant performance decrease!) to warrant one.

Narutu 9y ago

Yes, strange for a bug fix to be top of a list of features, however... I don't agree that it's "not the most eventful" release:- libsodium being included into the core is a big tick in the box in terms of maturing as a language; modern - secure - cryptography out of the box.

weberc2 9y ago
I'm surprised PHP hasn't had this for a while. Isn't PHP nearly 20 years old? Is it common for web languages to grow so old before they get crypto in the standard library?
- Narutu 9y ago
  You are right, of course, but nonetheless this is a significant step forward for the language (and the ecosystem as a whole). I do hope that - just like yourself, I am sure - the next significant step is more organically and proactively developed, and not treated (at least in the wider communtity's eyes) as a belated addition to a bewildered leviathan.
- Can_Not 9y ago
  > PHP 7.2: The First Programming Language to Add Modern Cryptography to its Standard Library https://dev.to/paragonie/php-72-the-first-programming-language-to-add-modern-cryptography-to-its-standard-library https://dev.to/paragonie/php-72-the-first-programming-langua...
  - weberc2 9y ago
    Ok, but that's different from including crypto at all. I'm surprised Go uses those algorithms in its standard library TLS stack, but they're not made available as part of the standard crypto packages...
    - Can_Not 9y ago
      OpenSSL and Mcrypt have been available for the longest time, I don't know if that counts if we word-lawyer "Standard Library" but it definitely felt like that way.