> so basically democracy doesn't scale? Doesn't scale "up", but scales "out" well :) > Maybe it would be better if I rephrased: I don't think it's possible fo

> so basically democracy doesn't scale? Doesn't scale "up", but scales "out" well :) > Maybe it would be better if I rephrased: I don't think it's possible for a large nation to have a well-functioning democracy for a long period of time. Unless the democracy is damn near (or actually) perfect, someone will eventually get the upper hand, start a pay-to-play system or find a way to slide the scales and you'll get on that same old progression. Yes. I agree. Democracy should be on low(est) geographical regions. And "perfect" is the enemy of "good enough". Some large nations have (had) quite "ok" democracies (the swiss, some of the scandies, and now maybe some baltics as well -- arguably they are not very big nations though). > [EDIT] - wanted to note that I really appreciate the links, watching them now, thanks! Welcome. Spread the ideas, this stuff is important. You might be interested in "market socialism" as well :)