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> Fear not that if literally anyone in the world could collect a paycheck without showing up to work and no consequence, you would not see any working. Fixed t

> Fear not that if literally anyone in the world could collect a paycheck without showing up to work and no consequence, you would not see any working. Fixed that for you.

conanbatt 9y ago
I agree 100%
ubernostrum 9y ago
So you're in favor of a 100% estate tax, and outlawing parents creating trust funds or other vehicles for their children to get around that tax, yes?
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  jackvalentine didn't propose anything, just stated a fact. You should ask politely before trying to put things in people's mouths.
  - ubernostrum 9y ago
    It's the logical conclusion, though. If it's a fact that anyone who can "collect a check" without working will do so, and if it's considered bad that someone would do that, then a 100% estate tax would fix one big way people manage that. Since as we all know, anyone who inherits enough money that they don't need to work will never work.
    - jackvalentine 9y ago
      Don't put words in my mouth.
    - conanbatt 9y ago
      It isn't. Stop insisting on that. If you wish to talk about the 100% estate tax I'm willing to talk about it tho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdjuPPtnWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdjuPPtnWA
      - ubernostrum 9y ago
        I'm more interested in why: 1. People selectively choose to care about whether another person or class of people can live without needing to work, and 2. People selectively advocate for contradictory universal statements about human nature depending on which humans they're talking about (in other words, applying different "universal" rules about motivation and behavior depending on whether the hypothetical person they're talking about is already wealthy or not).
        conanbatt 9y ago
        My original comment about collecting a paycheck without working is about the contrast between the alledged dignity of union workers versus their intended goal. jackvalentine said that the intended goal is shared by everyone. And then I agreed. There is nothing immoral in living without needing to work. ITs sometimes the opposite: should mentally deranged people or children be forced to work or live free? Those leeches. In the future its possible nobody will need to work. Thats just not the world we live in today.

> Fear not that if literally anyone in the world could collect a paycheck without showing up to work and no consequence, you would not see any working. Fixed that for you.

conanbatt 9y ago

I agree 100%

ubernostrum 9y ago

So you're in favor of a 100% estate tax, and outlawing parents creating trust funds or other vehicles for their children to get around that tax, yes?

pavel_lishin 9y ago
jackvalentine didn't propose anything, just stated a fact. You should ask politely before trying to put things in people's mouths.
- ubernostrum 9y ago
  It's the logical conclusion, though. If it's a fact that anyone who can "collect a check" without working will do so, and if it's considered bad that someone would do that, then a 100% estate tax would fix one big way people manage that. Since as we all know, anyone who inherits enough money that they don't need to work will never work.
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    Don't put words in my mouth.
  - conanbatt 9y ago
    It isn't. Stop insisting on that. If you wish to talk about the 100% estate tax I'm willing to talk about it tho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdjuPPtnWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdjuPPtnWA
    - ubernostrum 9y ago
      I'm more interested in why: 1. People selectively choose to care about whether another person or class of people can live without needing to work, and 2. People selectively advocate for contradictory universal statements about human nature depending on which humans they're talking about (in other words, applying different "universal" rules about motivation and behavior depending on whether the hypothetical person they're talking about is already wealthy or not).
      - conanbatt 9y ago
        My original comment about collecting a paycheck without working is about the contrast between the alledged dignity of union workers versus their intended goal. jackvalentine said that the intended goal is shared by everyone. And then I agreed. There is nothing immoral in living without needing to work. ITs sometimes the opposite: should mentally deranged people or children be forced to work or live free? Those leeches. In the future its possible nobody will need to work. Thats just not the world we live in today.