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Yes. But I already stated that in my response. We do not know the future and you shouldn't trust anyone who tells you differently. My point is that there have

Yes. But I already stated that in my response. We do not know the future and you shouldn't trust anyone who tells you differently. My point is that there have been skeptics and people saying it's a bubble or too volatile for nearly all of Bitcoin's history. But if you bought BTC and held it--at any high or low, for any significant amount of time--you made a lot of money (either realized or unrealized, that doesn't matter).

goodside 9y ago
> But if you bought BTC and held it--at any high or low, for any significant amount of time--you made a lot of money (either realized or unrealized, that doesn't matter). This isn't entirely true. If you bought Bitcoin anywhere near the height of the late-2013 mania (which is of course a lot of people, since that's why the price was so high), you lost half your value within a month or two and then had to hold until 2017 before you started to break even. You lost 70% if you held for a year and a half and gave up. The market from June to November 2011 was even more disastrous, falling from $29 to almost $2 and not recovering until February 2013. These are obviously cherry-picked dates, and you'd clearly have made a profit eventually if you kept holding, but it's still very possible to hold Bitcoin for years and lose money.
- knownothing 9y ago
  Right. You would had to have bought and held until today for my claim to be true (and it is only true at the time I write this). But it's still the case that you could have bought in any peak or trough in the periods you're referring to and still have significant realized/unrealized gains right now.
  - krrrh 9y ago
    Sure it’s true, but it’s a tautology to say it when something is at an all-time high.
    - knownothing 9y ago
      What's your point? I basically say that in my posts.
  - csomar 9y ago
    The difficult part is holding through the bear period. I'm pretty sure not so many investors can do that.
    - knownothing 9y ago
      Correct. The most difficult part of trading/investing/betting (call it what you want) is often confronting your own tolerance for risk and uncertainty.

goodside 9y ago

> But if you bought BTC and held it--at any high or low, for any significant amount of time--you made a lot of money (either realized or unrealized, that doesn't matter). This isn't entirely true. If you bought Bitcoin anywhere near the height of the late-2013 mania (which is of course a lot of people, since that's why the price was so high), you lost half your value within a month or two and then had to hold until 2017 before you started to break even. You lost 70% if you held for a year and a half and gave up. The market from June to November 2011 was even more disastrous, falling from $29 to almost $2 and not recovering until February 2013. These are obviously cherry-picked dates, and you'd clearly have made a profit eventually if you kept holding, but it's still very possible to hold Bitcoin for years and lose money.

knownothing 9y ago
Right. You would had to have bought and held until today for my claim to be true (and it is only true at the time I write this). But it's still the case that you could have bought in any peak or trough in the periods you're referring to and still have significant realized/unrealized gains right now.
- krrrh 9y ago
  Sure it’s true, but it’s a tautology to say it when something is at an all-time high.
  - knownothing 9y ago
    What's your point? I basically say that in my posts.
- csomar 9y ago
  The difficult part is holding through the bear period. I'm pretty sure not so many investors can do that.
  - knownothing 9y ago
    Correct. The most difficult part of trading/investing/betting (call it what you want) is often confronting your own tolerance for risk and uncertainty.