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> there are hair care products whose marketing focuses on a African-American customer base Sure, but those aren't the products I'm referencing. I'm specificall
by dvdhnt 9y ago
> there are hair care products whose marketing focuses on a African-American customer base
Sure, but those aren't the products I'm referencing. I'm specifically talking about items such as types of brushes. Literally ONE non African American person makes something not exclusive, which for the purpose of marketing products, is besides the point. One of the first things you learn in statistics is to ignore extreme outliers.
Additionally, discussing semantics gets us nowhere and misses the point of what I'm saying. Pretending that all cultures are interested in all products is a sham and we shouldn't force Facebook or anyone else to pretend otherwise, except in protected cases.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> Sure, but those aren't the products I'm referencing. Yes, they are; your description is inaccurate. > I'm specifically talking about items such as types of brushes Yes, those are (mostly) in the first category I talk about, those wheels the marketing focus is largely because they targeted hair features most common in, but not exclusive to, the targeted race. > Pretending that all cultures are interested in all products is a sham and we shouldn't force Facebook or anyone else to pretend otherwise, except in protected cases. Race is a protected class in public accommodations in general, not just housing. While that doesn't—either in housing or other accommodations—prohibit racially biased advertising such as choosing to advertise exclusively in a publication with a well-known race-specific appeal, to the extent one can argue housing anti-discrimination law is a bar to housing ads which are exclusively targeted to (or which specifically are targeted to avoid) individuals of a particular race, that would seem likely to raise issues under public accommodation laws as well.
- dvdhnt 9y ago> Yes, they are; your description is inaccurate. Oh, okay. Good to know you're inside my head. No, I didn't copy and paste the entirety of your quote because it didn't seem necessary. You're dancing around my point: particular characteristics are so pronounced in some groups, and less so in others, that it benefits an advertiser to target those groups. It just so happens to be, in this case, that those groups are categorized by race. The same would be true for the advertising of homosexual erotica - you probably want to target your adverts to homosexuals rather than heterosexuals, for example. Then again, you've already ignored the fact that these types of filters for adverts are in fact legal, preferring to encourage Facebook to both succumb to the vocal minority and act as our morality police. Specifically, when you say, "While that doesn't—either in housing or other accommodations—prohibit racially biased advertising...". > Race is a protected class in public accommodations in general, not just housing. You mention "public accommodations" twice, including the quote above and a reference to "public accommodation laws" at the end of your comment. Would you mind sourcing the particular laws you are referring to? I ask because Title II's definition of public accommodation is limited to "any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests".
- dragonwriter 9y ago> I ask because Title II's definition of public accommodation is limited to "any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests". No, Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 defines public accommodations much more broadly, in 42 USC § 2000a(b) as: ---[quote]--- 1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence; (2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station; (3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and (4) any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment. ---[end quote]--- States also have public accommodation laws (and sometimes also similar but separate anti-discrimination laws, like New Jersey’s Credit and Business Transactions law), which are often broader in application than Title II.
- dvdhnt 9y agoYour comments oftens say so much while saying very little. Please, kindly point out where in Titlte II or any other public accommodation law where accommodation could be loosely interpreted as including the selection of advertising categories we are actually discussing?