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A lot of things have been "historically OK" (at Google and elsewhere), but are no longer acceptable in today's society. It is called progress. Reminds me of th

A lot of things have been "historically OK" (at Google and elsewhere), but are no longer acceptable in today's society. It is called progress. Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/GrlEQ15mVPM https://youtu.be/GrlEQ15mVPM

jstewartmobile 9y ago
Not so sure about chalking it up to progress. Looks more like power having its perks to me...
jonstokes 9y ago
Edit: Reading this reply in Comic Book Guy voice and cracking up... :)
- ronilan 9y ago
  Seriously dude, that's how you preach the path of the righteous: https://youtu.be/3PeyiU3uWJ8 https://youtu.be/3PeyiU3uWJ8 (Use HN upvote button to promote democratic discussion) Edit: dude, why oh why you, changed your comment just as we are heading down the YT rabbit hole, why?
  - jonstokes 9y ago
    LOL... Because I really was cracking up at the Comic Book Guy thing :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Opt9bJlqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Opt9bJlqg
tryingagainbro 9y ago
>>after a woman complained to Human Resource Did you miss this^^? She complained. Maybe she complained to get back at him but still, she complained. Bill Gates also dated and married a subordinate. Poor woman, where was Gloria Allred to save her...
- jonstokes 9y ago
  No I didn't miss it. That's what I'm saying -- there has to be something beyond "consensual relationship with subordinate" going on here. The fact that someone complained to HR supports that hypothesis. My point was that sleeping with subordinates is not historically the kind of thing that gets people fired at Google. I make no claim about whether that's good or bad (whether or not that should ever be ok is a different discussion), just an observation that that's the way it has been, which (along with the HR complaint) indicates to me that this wasn't a simple case of Rubin sleeping with a subordinate.
  - tryingagainbro 9y ago
    >>there has to be something beyond "consensual relationship with subordinate" Yeah, he put a knife to her throat, no doubt. (sarcasm, OK?) She complained, said x, y and z and her word is taken at face value today. Plus, simply by dating her, he clearly violated Google's employment policies, probably a firing offense. Do you think that all the actresses that are complaining today were unwilling participants? For a lot of them things didn't work out as planned so whatever happened 20 years ago is now rape or sexual harassment.
    - sctb 9y ago
      Please don't comment like this again, it breaks the guidelines by being uncivil and unsubstantive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

jstewartmobile 9y ago

Not so sure about chalking it up to progress. Looks more like power having its perks to me...

jonstokes 9y ago

Edit: Reading this reply in Comic Book Guy voice and cracking up... :)

ronilan 9y ago
Seriously dude, that's how you preach the path of the righteous: https://youtu.be/3PeyiU3uWJ8 https://youtu.be/3PeyiU3uWJ8 (Use HN upvote button to promote democratic discussion) Edit: dude, why oh why you, changed your comment just as we are heading down the YT rabbit hole, why?
- jonstokes 9y ago
  LOL... Because I really was cracking up at the Comic Book Guy thing :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Opt9bJlqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Opt9bJlqg

tryingagainbro 9y ago

>>after a woman complained to Human Resource Did you miss this^^? She complained. Maybe she complained to get back at him but still, she complained. Bill Gates also dated and married a subordinate. Poor woman, where was Gloria Allred to save her...

jonstokes 9y ago
No I didn't miss it. That's what I'm saying -- there has to be something beyond "consensual relationship with subordinate" going on here. The fact that someone complained to HR supports that hypothesis. My point was that sleeping with subordinates is not historically the kind of thing that gets people fired at Google. I make no claim about whether that's good or bad (whether or not that should ever be ok is a different discussion), just an observation that that's the way it has been, which (along with the HR complaint) indicates to me that this wasn't a simple case of Rubin sleeping with a subordinate.
- tryingagainbro 9y ago
  >>there has to be something beyond "consensual relationship with subordinate" Yeah, he put a knife to her throat, no doubt. (sarcasm, OK?) She complained, said x, y and z and her word is taken at face value today. Plus, simply by dating her, he clearly violated Google's employment policies, probably a firing offense. Do you think that all the actresses that are complaining today were unwilling participants? For a lot of them things didn't work out as planned so whatever happened 20 years ago is now rape or sexual harassment.
  - sctb 9y ago
    Please don't comment like this again, it breaks the guidelines by being uncivil and unsubstantive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html