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Phrased this way, it starts to sound like an ML problem. Optimize based on a cost function, now what cost function do we use? Having people choose to maximize
by pwinnski 9y ago
Phrased this way, it starts to sound like an ML problem. Optimize based on a cost function, now what cost function do we use?
Having people choose to maximize happiness seems to be leading to worse outcomes by many objective standards. The monetary costs are high for the society in aggregate (and the externalities are not distributed according to the costs), health outcomes seem to be getting worse even to the extreme of lowering life expectancy, and so on. Purely seeking individual happiness seems like the wrong cost function based on that.
Of course, focusing only on economic cost to society would be even worse, and health outcomes tend to be based in large part on individual happiness.
I guess I'm saying that as you've characterized things, you make it sound like the "right" position is the correct one, but there seem to be a lot of things about that position that aren't so great. To be fair, you said "less total utilitarian happiness," but I thought it might help to give examples.
- golergka 9y ago> Phrased this way, it starts to sound like an ML problem. Which, I think, it pretty soon well be, and in some sense, already is (trading). > I guess I'm saying that as you've characterized things, you make it sound like the "right" position is the correct one While this is indeed my position, I tried not to express it in this particular comment, because it's not about who is right in this debate but rather about acknowledging it's existence and importance in the first place.