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Is anyone concerned enough with their facebook profile security to want to be verified on this level? why not a normal 2fa? it seems like there is a hidden age

Is anyone concerned enough with their facebook profile security to want to be verified on this level? why not a normal 2fa? it seems like there is a hidden agenda behind collecting and analyzing users facial characteristics.

slig 9y ago
Knowing fb, this is for their benefit, not the users i.e, they're trying to catch spammers and fake accounts, not see if you're the one accessing your own account or not.
- mtgx 9y ago
  I fear it's much more insidious than that. Facebook has a tendency to start doing some invasive stuff and then announce it to the world only 5 years later. They probably plan to use your facial profile for a number of things, none of which have to do with authenticating you to the Facebook website. I even see them sharing the profiles with the DHS to build more accurate facial recognition at airports, and other stuff like that. But of course they wouldn't admit it now, because it would mean everyone refusing to use it from day one. No wonder Facebook's attempt at getting people to give them their credit cards to enable ecommerce on the platform has been such an utter failure. The most popular searches on Google on this issue are whether or not you can trust Facebook with your credit card data. That's happening for a reason - Facebook has consistently tried to build a reputation of "shady-as-fuck" company throughout the years, and it's going to pay the price for it, either through stuff like people rejecting its ecommerce platforms, which means fewer billion-dollar monetization opportunities for Facebook in the long-term, or simply stopping using it when they get tired of the company's practices.
  - Chaebixi 9y ago
    > I fear it's much more insidious than that. Facebook has a tendency to start doing some invasive stuff and then announce it to the world only 5 years later. > They probably plan to use your facial profile for a number of things, none of which have to do with authenticating you to the Facebook website. I even see them sharing the profiles with the DHS to build more accurate facial recognition at airports, and other stuff like that. But of course they wouldn't admit it now, because it would mean everyone refusing to use it from day one. This validates my little project of uploading a ton of stock photos to my Facebook account and tagging myself in them.
    - DesiLurker 9y ago
      make something automatable with browser plugin on github .. that does sounds interesting.
  - 659087 9y ago
    > Facebook has consistently tried to build a reputation of "shady-as-fuck" company throughout the years, and it's going to pay the price for it Unfortunately, I think the fact that many people don't realize platforms like Instagram and WhatsApp belong to Facebook will allow them to avoid paying the price.
avh02 9y ago
Last I checked 2fa on Facebook REQUIRES a phone number to be provided so that your phone is an sms based backup method. Apparently all the talented engineers at Facebook didn't think "oh, let them download a few spares backup codes like ever other service" or that sms based backups are a stupid idea.
- jasonpeacock 9y ago
  Backup codes are available, once you've enabled 2FA: https://www.facebook.com/help/148104135383285?helpref=search&sr=5&query=codes https://www.facebook.com/help/148104135383285?helpref=search...
  - avh02 9y ago
    Well... I don't want to legitimize their "need" for my phone number (which granted they already figure out through contact books of others, they don't even hide that they've inferred it). Phones and 2fa are not dependent upon one another.
    - r00fus 9y ago
      Does google voice # work?
      - avh02 9y ago
        Don't know, I think google voice is only available in US/Canada, no? (I'm not in either of those countries)

slig 9y ago

Knowing fb, this is for their benefit, not the users i.e, they're trying to catch spammers and fake accounts, not see if you're the one accessing your own account or not.

mtgx 9y ago
I fear it's much more insidious than that. Facebook has a tendency to start doing some invasive stuff and then announce it to the world only 5 years later. They probably plan to use your facial profile for a number of things, none of which have to do with authenticating you to the Facebook website. I even see them sharing the profiles with the DHS to build more accurate facial recognition at airports, and other stuff like that. But of course they wouldn't admit it now, because it would mean everyone refusing to use it from day one. No wonder Facebook's attempt at getting people to give them their credit cards to enable ecommerce on the platform has been such an utter failure. The most popular searches on Google on this issue are whether or not you can trust Facebook with your credit card data. That's happening for a reason - Facebook has consistently tried to build a reputation of "shady-as-fuck" company throughout the years, and it's going to pay the price for it, either through stuff like people rejecting its ecommerce platforms, which means fewer billion-dollar monetization opportunities for Facebook in the long-term, or simply stopping using it when they get tired of the company's practices.
- Chaebixi 9y ago
  > I fear it's much more insidious than that. Facebook has a tendency to start doing some invasive stuff and then announce it to the world only 5 years later. > They probably plan to use your facial profile for a number of things, none of which have to do with authenticating you to the Facebook website. I even see them sharing the profiles with the DHS to build more accurate facial recognition at airports, and other stuff like that. But of course they wouldn't admit it now, because it would mean everyone refusing to use it from day one. This validates my little project of uploading a ton of stock photos to my Facebook account and tagging myself in them.
  - DesiLurker 9y ago
    make something automatable with browser plugin on github .. that does sounds interesting.
- 659087 9y ago
  > Facebook has consistently tried to build a reputation of "shady-as-fuck" company throughout the years, and it's going to pay the price for it Unfortunately, I think the fact that many people don't realize platforms like Instagram and WhatsApp belong to Facebook will allow them to avoid paying the price.

avh02 9y ago

Last I checked 2fa on Facebook REQUIRES a phone number to be provided so that your phone is an sms based backup method. Apparently all the talented engineers at Facebook didn't think "oh, let them download a few spares backup codes like ever other service" or that sms based backups are a stupid idea.

jasonpeacock 9y ago
Backup codes are available, once you've enabled 2FA: https://www.facebook.com/help/148104135383285?helpref=search&sr=5&query=codes https://www.facebook.com/help/148104135383285?helpref=search...
- avh02 9y ago
  Well... I don't want to legitimize their "need" for my phone number (which granted they already figure out through contact books of others, they don't even hide that they've inferred it). Phones and 2fa are not dependent upon one another.
  - r00fus 9y ago
    Does google voice # work?
    - avh02 9y ago
      Don't know, I think google voice is only available in US/Canada, no? (I'm not in either of those countries)