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I'd agree with this. I would be more likely to allow ads, particularly on sites I want to support, if I could have assurances that those ads aren't harvesting e

I'd agree with this. I would be more likely to allow ads, particularly on sites I want to support, if I could have assurances that those ads aren't harvesting every available datapoint they can. Make ads dumb again.

dhimes 9y ago
Yep. So much this. I don't mind ads. I mind tracking. Oh, and advertisers: I've never bought anything because I saw it on facebook or in a google ad or anywhere else like that. I'm not sure what you think you are doing with all that data, but it's not working. Ads are not how I learn about new "needs."
- theorique 9y ago
  I've never bought anything because I saw it on facebook or in a google ad or anywhere else like that. Can you be certain that this is true? Perhaps you didn't click through (I don't either), but what if your unconscious mind saw an ad that you did not register consciously.
  - dhimes 9y ago
    You can never falsify that, obviously, and I think a lot of the web-ad industry like to keep that FOMO in front of the advertisers. But I'm fairly certain. Vacations? Nope: I have my way of deciding and that's how I do it. Car? Nope. Calendar/planner? Nope. Pencils? Pens? Grill? Pants? Nope Nope Nope Nope. I'm hard-pressed to think of the last brand I learned of from an ad. Books? Usually from here (also planners, cars, etc.)
- davchana 9y ago
  Most of the the the ads I see by Google or Facebook are the ones for purchases I already made. Few weeks ago I already booked a hotel on booking.com, and then searched about that hotel's official website and facebook page, and boy, for two weeks every google ad and facebook ad had that hotel name.
  - dhimes 9y ago
    LOL exactly. It's ridiculous. I accidentally cost my buddy a click when his ad appeared on my feed (his ad has no business being on my feed)- I was on mobile so of course accidentally clicked it. The ad industry is just so damn broken that it's ripe for a huge disruption. The whole hypothesis of Google- that people will want to see ads centered on what they are searching for- seems to be erroneous. But it's been taken as gospel for what- a dozen years?- that everybody has piled on to the idea that we can know what people want to buy based on the type of information they seek. I think that except in explicit cases- searching for 'umbrellas that can withstand high winds' for instance- it's not true. As I've said before here, when I'm ready to buy I'm searching Amazon, not Google.

dhimes 9y ago

Yep. So much this. I don't mind ads. I mind tracking. Oh, and advertisers: I've never bought anything because I saw it on facebook or in a google ad or anywhere else like that. I'm not sure what you think you are doing with all that data, but it's not working. Ads are not how I learn about new "needs."

theorique 9y ago
I've never bought anything because I saw it on facebook or in a google ad or anywhere else like that. Can you be certain that this is true? Perhaps you didn't click through (I don't either), but what if your unconscious mind saw an ad that you did not register consciously.
- dhimes 9y ago
  You can never falsify that, obviously, and I think a lot of the web-ad industry like to keep that FOMO in front of the advertisers. But I'm fairly certain. Vacations? Nope: I have my way of deciding and that's how I do it. Car? Nope. Calendar/planner? Nope. Pencils? Pens? Grill? Pants? Nope Nope Nope Nope. I'm hard-pressed to think of the last brand I learned of from an ad. Books? Usually from here (also planners, cars, etc.)
davchana 9y ago
Most of the the the ads I see by Google or Facebook are the ones for purchases I already made. Few weeks ago I already booked a hotel on booking.com, and then searched about that hotel's official website and facebook page, and boy, for two weeks every google ad and facebook ad had that hotel name.
- dhimes 9y ago
  LOL exactly. It's ridiculous. I accidentally cost my buddy a click when his ad appeared on my feed (his ad has no business being on my feed)- I was on mobile so of course accidentally clicked it. The ad industry is just so damn broken that it's ripe for a huge disruption. The whole hypothesis of Google- that people will want to see ads centered on what they are searching for- seems to be erroneous. But it's been taken as gospel for what- a dozen years?- that everybody has piled on to the idea that we can know what people want to buy based on the type of information they seek. I think that except in explicit cases- searching for 'umbrellas that can withstand high winds' for instance- it's not true. As I've said before here, when I'm ready to buy I'm searching Amazon, not Google.