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While I think there's a chance you might be right, I don't think it's logical in the long run. I think changes in perception like this are accumulated over time

While I think there's a chance you might be right, I don't think it's logical in the long run. I think changes in perception like this are accumulated over time and will in the end hurt the product. For some examples, look at the impression of Microsoft and Windows when it comes to quality. It is only now starting to improve, with gigantic efforts from Microsofts side. Another example is Linux and usability, which have constantly gotten better (maybe still not good enough, but that's better left for another thread) but still many see Linux as "advanced" and only for power users. These are not perfect examples, of course. What I mean is that I think it's bad strategy on Apple's part (if they're doing this deliberately), especially considering the resources they have at their hands. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple could increase it's desktop market share further by positioning themselves as high quality. However, it's a reputation they are losing fast.

wlesieutre 9y ago
>It is only now starting to improve, with gigantic efforts from Microsofts side. Is it? They axed their internal QA and definitely aren't catching all the bugs with the "Insiders Program." After the Fall Creator's Update I've had to log in twice (after the first one I just get sent back to the login screen). The workaround is disabling a setting: "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or restart." I'm also getting repeated alerts that a restart is required to complete installing an audio driver, but restarting doesn't finish it. I probably need to track down the responsible driver, uninstall it, and reinstall manually or hope Windows does it. Obviously that's not as serious an issue as unauthenticated root access, but in day-to-day use of my Windows computer I don't have a very positive impression of their software quality.
- e_proxus 9y ago
  Maybe not quality wise in all areas (I agree with you there) but at least in giving a professional and modern impression compared to let's say Windows XP/7. Maybe operating systems are declining in quality in general, even though organizations sometimes try to improve them. I guess legacy plays a big role here.
  - wlesieutre 9y ago
    Saw this on the Windows 10 subreddit and got a sad chuckle out of it: https://i.redd.it/dvzzftkyzyiz.png https://i.redd.it/dvzzftkyzyiz.png They definitely have a more modern design language going, but they're not exactly consistent about it.

wlesieutre 9y ago

>It is only now starting to improve, with gigantic efforts from Microsofts side. Is it? They axed their internal QA and definitely aren't catching all the bugs with the "Insiders Program." After the Fall Creator's Update I've had to log in twice (after the first one I just get sent back to the login screen). The workaround is disabling a setting: "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or restart." I'm also getting repeated alerts that a restart is required to complete installing an audio driver, but restarting doesn't finish it. I probably need to track down the responsible driver, uninstall it, and reinstall manually or hope Windows does it. Obviously that's not as serious an issue as unauthenticated root access, but in day-to-day use of my Windows computer I don't have a very positive impression of their software quality.

e_proxus 9y ago
Maybe not quality wise in all areas (I agree with you there) but at least in giving a professional and modern impression compared to let's say Windows XP/7. Maybe operating systems are declining in quality in general, even though organizations sometimes try to improve them. I guess legacy plays a big role here.
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  Saw this on the Windows 10 subreddit and got a sad chuckle out of it: https://i.redd.it/dvzzftkyzyiz.png https://i.redd.it/dvzzftkyzyiz.png They definitely have a more modern design language going, but they're not exactly consistent about it.