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Fellow Linux users, please keep the snark in this thread to a minimum. Here's just one recent example why, there are more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ub

Fellow Linux users, please keep the snark in this thread to a minimum. Here's just one recent example why, there are more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-guest-sessions-login-disabled http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-guest-sessions-log...

igetspam 9y ago
Linux != Ubuntu Linux didn't have that problem, a single vendor did. You could say the same for Apple except they are the single vendor. That stupid security trick in Ubuntu only impacts subset of a subset of Linux _desktop_ users which is a pretty small subset of computer users as a whole. When Apple does something like this, it impacts a much larger share of the world population. So how about we keep the snark to an appropriate level based on the impact to the world population? ;)
- arghwhat 9y ago
  As Linux user who does kernel-mode development for a living, root escalation bugs come a dime a dozen. And, well, Linux runs everything but the average persons laptop, so the impact, while different, is much greater. So lets keep the snark to an appropriate level, shall we?
  - igetspam 9y ago
    Are you arguing that privilege escalation is the equivalent to passwordless root login? I mean, I guess you squint just right you could say that a logged out user having zero privileges being able to login as a user with all privileges is an "escalation" but that's one hell of a stretch. We haven't even gotten to snark yet though. We can point to avenues for remote root all day but I don't recall any that are/were as simple as "just hit [enter] to get root" that impacts the shared attack surface that impacts all Linux systems. NOTE: I did not go and search NVD before writing this reply but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.
dsp1234 9y ago
Number of mentions of "Linux" outside of your thread comment chain: 0
MentallyRetired 9y ago
Hypocrisy is a reason to keep snark at a minimum?
zeveb 9y ago
I'm a Linux desktop (and laptop!) user, and I agree (I haven't even used macOS in almost twenty years). Anyone remember the Debian OSPRNG issue? These sorts of bugs can happen anywhere. We all need to bear that in mind. One notable difference, though, is that macOS is proprietary software. Apple have sold their users a product and haven't respected their users' right to use, modify & distribute that product; their users have never had the ability to inspect the macOS source for this kind of problem. Thus, responsibility for this disaster rests solely on Apple's shoulders.
trumpRektYou 9y ago
spotted the applefag.

igetspam 9y ago

Linux != Ubuntu Linux didn't have that problem, a single vendor did. You could say the same for Apple except they are the single vendor. That stupid security trick in Ubuntu only impacts subset of a subset of Linux _desktop_ users which is a pretty small subset of computer users as a whole. When Apple does something like this, it impacts a much larger share of the world population. So how about we keep the snark to an appropriate level based on the impact to the world population? ;)

arghwhat 9y ago
As Linux user who does kernel-mode development for a living, root escalation bugs come a dime a dozen. And, well, Linux runs everything but the average persons laptop, so the impact, while different, is much greater. So lets keep the snark to an appropriate level, shall we?
- igetspam 9y ago
  Are you arguing that privilege escalation is the equivalent to passwordless root login? I mean, I guess you squint just right you could say that a logged out user having zero privileges being able to login as a user with all privileges is an "escalation" but that's one hell of a stretch. We haven't even gotten to snark yet though. We can point to avenues for remote root all day but I don't recall any that are/were as simple as "just hit [enter] to get root" that impacts the shared attack surface that impacts all Linux systems. NOTE: I did not go and search NVD before writing this reply but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

dsp1234 9y ago

Number of mentions of "Linux" outside of your thread comment chain: 0

MentallyRetired 9y ago

Hypocrisy is a reason to keep snark at a minimum?

zeveb 9y ago

I'm a Linux desktop (and laptop!) user, and I agree (I haven't even used macOS in almost twenty years). Anyone remember the Debian OSPRNG issue? These sorts of bugs can happen anywhere. We all need to bear that in mind. One notable difference, though, is that macOS is proprietary software. Apple have sold their users a product and haven't respected their users' right to use, modify & distribute that product; their users have never had the ability to inspect the macOS source for this kind of problem. Thus, responsibility for this disaster rests solely on Apple's shoulders.

trumpRektYou 9y ago

spotted the applefag.