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Yep. I don't know why people fail to understand this. As one comparison, Debian supports their user base; Microsoft supports their business model[1]. I also do
by _jal 9y ago
Yep. I don't know why people fail to understand this. As one comparison, Debian supports their user base; Microsoft supports their business model[1].
I also don't understand why anyone who cares about these issues would buy HP - they're establishing a great track record as a company that really wants to spy on their customers[2]. Almost worse than that is how incompetent they've been about it - a couple years ago it was FinFisher, and I believe they somewhat recently shipped a key logger in a driver by apparent accident.
For my part, my machines save one run OSes that expose full control of the machine[3]. OSes that don't, like other untrusted software, run in VMs so that I can still control them. Windows instances don't get network access anymore. I only use it for a couple apps that do what they need to do, so the bottled demon doesn't need updates until underlying needs change. It makes life much easier when a whole class of problems can't happen.
[1] Which is as it is 'supposed to be', as the rules are currently written.
[2] Not to mention board members...
[3] Yes, cellphones; not a novel observation. That's a different discussion that I've had several times here.
- zamber 9y agoExplains why I don't see any HP laptops in the wild no more. Pretty much Apples and Dells everywhere with an odd Lenovo here and there.
- cbcoutinho 9y agoHP is abundant in the world of cheap enterprise laptops for employees. I would never buy one, but I don't care much about what the business I work for wants to buy its newcomers. After about a year, I made it clear to my boss that I was much more valuable to the company running in a Linux system. They 'found' some extra budget and made it happen, and I'm very pleased with that, but I don't disagree with their first decision to just get a simple HP.
- jaxondu 9y agoHP is number 1 in worldwide notebook market https://www.idropnews.com/news/macbook-sales-push-apple-no-4-worldwide-laptop-marketshare/55841/ https://www.idropnews.com/news/macbook-sales-push-apple-no-4...
- knolan 9y agoEveryone is our company is issued a HP hunk of garbage. Mine sits on top of a set of drawers buried under some manuals. Almost everyone in our team has a Mac, a custom built PC or some other nice machine. I boot the HP probably once a year to blindly click through the flash based corporate training that one of us draws the short straw to write down the answers for.
- caelus 9y ago...get a new job?
- gerdesj 9y agoHappy enough HPE lappy user here. I was able to get Arch on it without accepting the Win 10 license.