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Actually i would argue the opposite. Not to the extent of genocide but the lid has really blown on Hollywood's sexual harassment problem (read: rape culture). L

by ramy_d 9y ago

Actually i would argue the opposite. Not to the extent of genocide but the lid has really blown on Hollywood's sexual harassment problem (read: rape culture). Let's not forget Uber's contribution there and of course the whole gamer gate scandal which is still fresh in the minds of the people involved in the community. Racism, classism, and authoritarianism's roaring 2017 comeback. Then there's Madoff, Exon (classic) , various kickstarter scams, Nortel (Canada represent! ) etc I mean if you think about it just a bit, there are many examples that would indicate we actually live in those cultures. Sure they might say those cultures are inferior, but let's take a cold hard look here.

alphaalpha101 9y ago
Sorry, I have to ask: are you actually saying that the tiny niche problem of Hollywood sexual harassment (which is, remember, a miniscule community in the grand scale of things), sexual harassment at one software company, and a scandal about video game review industry ethics is remotely at the same level as stoning people to death for being raped on a regular basis? Executing people for being gay? Oh well, at least the Saudis aren't setting up kickstarter scams. You can criticise consumerism and sexism and racism all you like, don't let me stop you, but don't for a minute think it's reasonable to suggest that that means that all cultures are equivalently good or bad.
Chris2048 9y ago
> and of course the whole gamer gate scandal What about that? The feminist-frequency videos where reverse dog-whistles; insults directed at the gamer community, but couched in misrepresentations and pseudo-intellectual terminology to dress it up as honest critique. Then the trolling and cyber harassment that was received from some demographics were used to tar any critic with the same "GG-supporter" brush. Not at all similar to physical harassment and rape by powerful celebrities.
- ramy_d 9y ago
  sure
eric-hu 9y ago
Oh but I didn't say our society's hands are clean. My money simply goes to the odds of what "cultures" most in ours might find reprehensible. And as for those in our society who do those things? My money is on most people in the home turf saying that's not their culture, that these are bad eggs.
- ramy_d 9y ago
  This is a form of Nimby: "well I don't do those things and it is reprehensible that people in my society do!". That's cute and all but what are we doing about that? Look at the Weinstein scandal - that dude was on a 37 year streak. Or Pixar's Lasseter with a history dating back 15 years. NYT quoted Rashida Jones: “There is so much talent at Pixar, and we remain enormous fans of their films,” they continued. “However, it is also a culture where women and people of color do not have an equal creative voice.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/business/media/john-lasseter-pixar-disney-leave.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/business/media/john-lasse... Racism, Sexism. _But not me, not in my backyard, those people exercise reprehensible behaviour! shame on them_. Come on. I'm just saying: we gotta own up a bit, we live in this society too, we also make it what it is and we can all strive to make it better. I don't see bad eggs, I see bad systems that foster bad eggs. my 2c

by ramy_d 9y ago

alphaalpha101 9y ago

Sorry, I have to ask: are you actually saying that the tiny niche problem of Hollywood sexual harassment (which is, remember, a miniscule community in the grand scale of things), sexual harassment at one software company, and a scandal about video game review industry ethics is remotely at the same level as stoning people to death for being raped on a regular basis? Executing people for being gay? Oh well, at least the Saudis aren't setting up kickstarter scams. You can criticise consumerism and sexism and racism all you like, don't let me stop you, but don't for a minute think it's reasonable to suggest that that means that all cultures are equivalently good or bad.

Chris2048 9y ago

> and of course the whole gamer gate scandal What about that? The feminist-frequency videos where reverse dog-whistles; insults directed at the gamer community, but couched in misrepresentations and pseudo-intellectual terminology to dress it up as honest critique. Then the trolling and cyber harassment that was received from some demographics were used to tar any critic with the same "GG-supporter" brush. Not at all similar to physical harassment and rape by powerful celebrities.

ramy_d 9y ago
sure

eric-hu 9y ago

Oh but I didn't say our society's hands are clean. My money simply goes to the odds of what "cultures" most in ours might find reprehensible. And as for those in our society who do those things? My money is on most people in the home turf saying that's not their culture, that these are bad eggs.

ramy_d 9y ago
This is a form of Nimby: "well I don't do those things and it is reprehensible that people in my society do!". That's cute and all but what are we doing about that? Look at the Weinstein scandal - that dude was on a 37 year streak. Or Pixar's Lasseter with a history dating back 15 years. NYT quoted Rashida Jones: “There is so much talent at Pixar, and we remain enormous fans of their films,” they continued. “However, it is also a culture where women and people of color do not have an equal creative voice.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/business/media/john-lasseter-pixar-disney-leave.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/business/media/john-lasse... Racism, Sexism. _But not me, not in my backyard, those people exercise reprehensible behaviour! shame on them_. Come on. I'm just saying: we gotta own up a bit, we live in this society too, we also make it what it is and we can all strive to make it better. I don't see bad eggs, I see bad systems that foster bad eggs. my 2c