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> That is at least one country where they have learned to not piss off the people. In 1989 they rose up, caught and killed their corrupt dictator. All in the ma

by chimen 9y ago

> That is at least one country where they have learned to not piss off the people. In 1989 they rose up, caught and killed their corrupt dictator. All in the matter of days. Sorry buddy but Ceausescu was not killed by the people. His trial was a disgrace, was rushed, staged and was brutal by any democratic standard. Ceausescu was killed by those that were already working under his direct command at that time (here's the main actor sitting next to Ceausescu which also became president a few weeks later: http://static3.evz.ro/image-original-605-388/cache/2016-10/ceausescu-si-iliescu-465x390.jpg http://static3.evz.ro/image-original-605-388/cache/2016-10/c...). The whole thing was merely a shift in power by cutting the head of the beast and re-growing a new one from the same body. During those days, all the "revolutionaries" that we saw on TV killing Ceausescu and torturing his children LIVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNpca3Mh7as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNpca3Mh7as), formed a "mafia" group that would rule the country for the next decade; a period in which every industry was sold by these people. > People came out to protest and within days decision was reversed. That's more than a month of protests (18 Jan - 26 Feb). We eventually won but we left those protests knowing that this government will try to do its own ways sometimes later. What we are fighting here is the same party that was formed after the revolution in 1989.

rdtsc 9y ago
> Sorry buddy but Ceausescu was not killed by the people. Yeah people on the street didn't get to fire at him and his wife, someone else who already had some authority did. There was nothing democratic about it, but there was also not much protesting and rioting following it. People in large supported the capture and execution, no? Do you feel that if there was a prolonged trial that it would have been a fair trial and it would have somehow ended up better for the country? I am asking honestly as an outsider, I don't know much about it. > That's more than a month of protests (18 Jan - 26 Feb). Sorry, I was going by the NYT article which I linked to which said " After five straight days of spirited mass protests..."
- chimen 9y ago
  Well, I'm not talking about the people on the street. It was too short and too quick. At a longer trial the whole truth could have emerged and that was something they tried to avoid. > People in large supported the capture and execution, no? Yeah they did, with the information they had at that time - mainly the nation television which was also seized and controlled by this mafia that is still in power today. You cannot kill people because it's a popular demand. I don't regret those days at all, I'm just saying - the general population was fouled into believing all sorts of crazy stuff that weren't true. In short no, the people didn't ask for Ceausescu to be killed. It just "happened". After a longer trial he would have been killed probably...who knows. > there was also not much protesting and rioting following it There wasn't, the "terrorists" threat lasted even after they were executed. We were afraid to go on the streets during this time. People had other things to worry about. No protests were made regarding the killings of the Ceausescu's but, in 1990, people started a new riot against the new "faces" that were trying to put themselves in power. It was called the mineriada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1990_Mineriad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1990_Mineriad This is what happened to those who tried to protest against the new government at that time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNiGSE0ybQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNiGSE0ybQ There's a big article (the only interview given by his son Nicu) in which he explains how everything took place and how the population were led to believe there's terrorists killing people: https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/singurul-interviu-acordat-de-nicu-ceausescu-presei-romane https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/singurul-in...

by chimen 9y ago

rdtsc 9y ago

> Sorry buddy but Ceausescu was not killed by the people. Yeah people on the street didn't get to fire at him and his wife, someone else who already had some authority did. There was nothing democratic about it, but there was also not much protesting and rioting following it. People in large supported the capture and execution, no? Do you feel that if there was a prolonged trial that it would have been a fair trial and it would have somehow ended up better for the country? I am asking honestly as an outsider, I don't know much about it. > That's more than a month of protests (18 Jan - 26 Feb). Sorry, I was going by the NYT article which I linked to which said " After five straight days of spirited mass protests..."

chimen 9y ago
Well, I'm not talking about the people on the street. It was too short and too quick. At a longer trial the whole truth could have emerged and that was something they tried to avoid. > People in large supported the capture and execution, no? Yeah they did, with the information they had at that time - mainly the nation television which was also seized and controlled by this mafia that is still in power today. You cannot kill people because it's a popular demand. I don't regret those days at all, I'm just saying - the general population was fouled into believing all sorts of crazy stuff that weren't true. In short no, the people didn't ask for Ceausescu to be killed. It just "happened". After a longer trial he would have been killed probably...who knows. > there was also not much protesting and rioting following it There wasn't, the "terrorists" threat lasted even after they were executed. We were afraid to go on the streets during this time. People had other things to worry about. No protests were made regarding the killings of the Ceausescu's but, in 1990, people started a new riot against the new "faces" that were trying to put themselves in power. It was called the mineriada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1990_Mineriad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1990_Mineriad This is what happened to those who tried to protest against the new government at that time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNiGSE0ybQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNiGSE0ybQ There's a big article (the only interview given by his son Nicu) in which he explains how everything took place and how the population were led to believe there's terrorists killing people: https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/singurul-interviu-acordat-de-nicu-ceausescu-presei-romane https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/singurul-in...