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I switched to Gnome for 17.10 (Gnome proper, not Ubuntu Gnome) and it's been amazing.

by cheez 9y ago

guiambros 9y ago
Out of curiosity, did you just install Ubuntu 17.10, removed Ubuntu-gnome and then manually installed plain Gnome on top? Any special steps to make it work (like booting to a secondary wm while you uninstall and reinstall gnome)? I'm still on 14.04 with vanilla Gnome (with my own extensions, etc), so I'm happy to see Canonical moving out of the desktop business, and retiring Unity for good. I just wish they offered a vanilla Gnome, instead of this heavily customized Unity-looking one.
- yorwba 9y ago
  Can't you just install them side-by-side? Then after confirming "real" Gnome works, uninstall Ubuntu's Gnome. Or do they somehow conflict with each other?
  - r3bl 9y ago
    Nope, they do not. Just execute "apt install gnome-shell" and you get GNOME proper. No interference what so ever. After all, Ubuntu's GNOME is just GNOME with some extensions slapped on top.
ggreer 9y ago
I've had the exact opposite reaction to the change. So many common actions seem needlessly difficult. Take –for example– joining a wifi network. In Unity, you'd click on the wifi icon in the upper-right, then click on the network you want to join. Two clicks. In Gnome, you click in the upper-right, then click on the wifi icon to expand options, then click on "Select Network", then click on the network you want to join, then click "Connect". Five clicks! It's absurd. The story is similar for things like power settings or selecting sound input/output sources. I wish the Gnome team would imitate macOS or Windows instead of coming up with their own uniquely frustrating interfaces.
- raverbashing 9y ago
  This is gnome in a nutshell, complicating things needlessly
- Izkata 9y ago
  That's... odd. It's been a long time since I've used a full desktop environment, but back sometime around Ubuntu 10.04 it was by default the two-click Unity version you described. Even nowadays (on 16.04) if I start nm-applet, it's just two clicks.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    Yes, if you use nm-applet, with a tray icon (which GNOME threw out), as opposed to what they've baked into the panel, then it works. Progress! /s
jdlyga 9y ago
Gnome is the best non-unity desktop environment. Just not out of the box :)

I switched to Gnome for 17.10 (Gnome proper, not Ubuntu Gnome) and it's been amazing.

by cheez 9y ago

I switched to Gnome for 17.10 (Gnome proper, not Ubuntu Gnome) and it's been amazing.

Out of curiosity, did you just install Ubuntu 17.10, removed Ubuntu-gnome and then manually installed plain Gnome on top? Any special steps to make it work (like booting to a secondary wm while you uninstall and reinstall gnome)? I'm still on 14.04 with vanilla Gnome (with my own extensions, etc), so I'm happy to see Canonical moving out of the desktop business, and retiring Unity for good. I just wish they offered a vanilla Gnome, instead of this heavily customized Unity-looking one.

yorwba 9y ago
Can't you just install them side-by-side? Then after confirming "real" Gnome works, uninstall Ubuntu's Gnome. Or do they somehow conflict with each other?
- r3bl 9y ago
  Nope, they do not. Just execute "apt install gnome-shell" and you get GNOME proper. No interference what so ever. After all, Ubuntu's GNOME is just GNOME with some extensions slapped on top.

ggreer 9y ago

I've had the exact opposite reaction to the change. So many common actions seem needlessly difficult. Take –for example– joining a wifi network. In Unity, you'd click on the wifi icon in the upper-right, then click on the network you want to join. Two clicks. In Gnome, you click in the upper-right, then click on the wifi icon to expand options, then click on "Select Network", then click on the network you want to join, then click "Connect". Five clicks! It's absurd. The story is similar for things like power settings or selecting sound input/output sources. I wish the Gnome team would imitate macOS or Windows instead of coming up with their own uniquely frustrating interfaces.

raverbashing 9y ago
This is gnome in a nutshell, complicating things needlessly
Izkata 9y ago
That's... odd. It's been a long time since I've used a full desktop environment, but back sometime around Ubuntu 10.04 it was by default the two-click Unity version you described. Even nowadays (on 16.04) if I start nm-applet, it's just two clicks.
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
  Yes, if you use nm-applet, with a tray icon (which GNOME threw out), as opposed to what they've baked into the panel, then it works. Progress! /s

jdlyga 9y ago

Gnome is the best non-unity desktop environment. Just not out of the box :)