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".. could have gotten through if they had been a bit less sloppy" .. and if my aunt had different bits she'd be my uncle. Of course a perfectly executed plot

by jbooth 9y ago

".. could have gotten through if they had been a bit less sloppy" .. and if my aunt had different bits she'd be my uncle. Of course a perfectly executed plot with hard-to-fake corroborating details and no holes whatsoever could have fooled them. WaPo reporters aren't perfect. But they ARE genuinely interested in the truth, and interested in doing due diligence to ensure they're reporting it. Above personal politics or personal likes/dislikes of public figures. Conservative media don't seem to understand that. Maybe they can't understand it.

DonHopkins 9y ago
.. and if she had two wheels, she'd be a bicycle! Your aunt is awesome! I've heard so many amazing stories about her. The Washington Post interviewed 30 people for their original Roy Moore story. And they checked court records. It was a rigorously researched and thoroughly fact-checked story. None of the women in that story sought out the Washington Post, who reached out to them first. That's why Jaime Phillips contacting the Post first herself raised some initial suspicions, and she deserved at least as much rigorous vetting as the other women who weren't actively shopping their story around, and who Roy Moore actually diddled. In other words, it's not just that Project Veritas was extremely sloppy, but that their whole model and narrative about the "Liberal Mainstream Media" is deeply and totally wrong, but does apply to themselves, and they're not generally interested in the truth. They believe their own lies, and project them onto their enemies. They were trying to prove something about the Washington Post that wasn't true, by assuming it was true, in a way that depended on it being true, but it wasn't true. Jaime Phillips herself claimed on her GoFundie page: "I'm moving to New York! I've accepted a job to work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceipt of the liberal MSM. I'll be using my skills as a researcher and fact-checker to help our movement." But her job was actually to "combat the liberal MSM with lies and deceipt". (Or "deceit", as it turned out.) She fancies herself a fact checker, not a spell checker, and presumes the MSM doesn't check facts even though it's their job, because she isn't really a fact checker herself, she just said that to get a job, and presumes other people like the Washington Post reporters who call themselves fact checkers are also misrepresenting themselves and totally incompetent, just like she is.

by jbooth 9y ago

DonHopkins 9y ago

.. and if she had two wheels, she'd be a bicycle! Your aunt is awesome! I've heard so many amazing stories about her. The Washington Post interviewed 30 people for their original Roy Moore story. And they checked court records. It was a rigorously researched and thoroughly fact-checked story. None of the women in that story sought out the Washington Post, who reached out to them first. That's why Jaime Phillips contacting the Post first herself raised some initial suspicions, and she deserved at least as much rigorous vetting as the other women who weren't actively shopping their story around, and who Roy Moore actually diddled. In other words, it's not just that Project Veritas was extremely sloppy, but that their whole model and narrative about the "Liberal Mainstream Media" is deeply and totally wrong, but does apply to themselves, and they're not generally interested in the truth. They believe their own lies, and project them onto their enemies. They were trying to prove something about the Washington Post that wasn't true, by assuming it was true, in a way that depended on it being true, but it wasn't true. Jaime Phillips herself claimed on her GoFundie page: "I'm moving to New York! I've accepted a job to work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceipt of the liberal MSM. I'll be using my skills as a researcher and fact-checker to help our movement." But her job was actually to "combat the liberal MSM with lies and deceipt". (Or "deceit", as it turned out.) She fancies herself a fact checker, not a spell checker, and presumes the MSM doesn't check facts even though it's their job, because she isn't really a fact checker herself, she just said that to get a job, and presumes other people like the Washington Post reporters who call themselves fact checkers are also misrepresenting themselves and totally incompetent, just like she is.