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and what precisely is the difference between a 'reporting ring' and an 'activist group', algorithmically?

by cat199 9y ago

tankenmate 9y ago
The ring is just an indicator of coordination. Coordiniation of what is left up to the humans.
creaghpatr 9y ago
Reporting rings are pretty common on Facebook
- tree_of_item 9y ago
  Yes but what distinguishes a reporting ring from a "valid" group of people acting in concert?
  - tudorconstantin 9y ago
    These people are acting in concert to deny some other citizens what should be a basic right: the right of free speech. There are things that shouldn't be possible to be enabled by popular vote: for example it shouldn't be possible to take the life of a law abiding citizen based on how many people antipathize him. Or to silence one for that matter. I think that voting rings should in fact be legitimate (because they show that a piece of content is popular within a certain group of people, which is exactly the purpose of upvoting functionality), while reporting rings that obstruct some individuals liberties should be actively banned.
    - lerpa 9y ago
      You don't have a right to post whatever you want on Facebook. As far as we know they can forbid everyone from posting and call it a day, it's their website after all.
  - yorwba 9y ago
    When content reported by a group of people acting in concert is manually reviewed (one can dream, right?) and it turns out that it didn't violate the rules on what kind of content can be posted, the group of people is actually a reporting ring, and reports by them should correspondingly be given lower weight.
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lerpa 9y ago
Isn't mass reporting done by people a form of activism. Don't know why you want to diferentiate, activism doesn't have to be "good".
- Chaebixi 9y ago
  > Isn't mass reporting done by people a form of activism. Don't know why you want to diferentiate, activism doesn't have to be "good". Any kind of "mass reporting" should be blocked, regardless of the motivation. The only question when evaluating a report should be is it of a valid guideline violation or not. The core problem here seems to be that Facebook doesn't have a human in the loop to filter the bad reports from good. Maybe they do have a human in the loop, but that human isn't trustworthy. In any case, their system clearly needs more work.

and what precisely is the difference between a 'reporting ring' and an 'activist group', algorithmically?

by cat199 9y ago

and what precisely is the difference between a 'reporting ring' and an 'activist group', algorithmically?

tankenmate 9y ago

The ring is just an indicator of coordination. Coordiniation of what is left up to the humans.

creaghpatr 9y ago

Reporting rings are pretty common on Facebook

tree_of_item 9y ago
Yes but what distinguishes a reporting ring from a "valid" group of people acting in concert?
- tudorconstantin 9y ago
  These people are acting in concert to deny some other citizens what should be a basic right: the right of free speech. There are things that shouldn't be possible to be enabled by popular vote: for example it shouldn't be possible to take the life of a law abiding citizen based on how many people antipathize him. Or to silence one for that matter. I think that voting rings should in fact be legitimate (because they show that a piece of content is popular within a certain group of people, which is exactly the purpose of upvoting functionality), while reporting rings that obstruct some individuals liberties should be actively banned.
  - lerpa 9y ago
    You don't have a right to post whatever you want on Facebook. As far as we know they can forbid everyone from posting and call it a day, it's their website after all.
- yorwba 9y ago
  When content reported by a group of people acting in concert is manually reviewed (one can dream, right?) and it turns out that it didn't violate the rules on what kind of content can be posted, the group of people is actually a reporting ring, and reports by them should correspondingly be given lower weight.

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lerpa 9y ago

Isn't mass reporting done by people a form of activism. Don't know why you want to diferentiate, activism doesn't have to be "good".

Chaebixi 9y ago
> Isn't mass reporting done by people a form of activism. Don't know why you want to diferentiate, activism doesn't have to be "good". Any kind of "mass reporting" should be blocked, regardless of the motivation. The only question when evaluating a report should be is it of a valid guideline violation or not. The core problem here seems to be that Facebook doesn't have a human in the loop to filter the bad reports from good. Maybe they do have a human in the loop, but that human isn't trustworthy. In any case, their system clearly needs more work.