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U.S. Government planned to invade Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red U.S. Government planned to inva

by JackFr 9y ago

U.S. Government planned to invade Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red U.S. Government planned to invade Azores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Gray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Gray U.S government does a lot of contingency planning https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/war-plan-rainbow.htm https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/war-plan-rainbow...

alexandercrohde 9y ago
This is dismissive. I don't foresee any valid contingency scenario that validates a "false flag," the fact that individuals in the government would think this way only gives credence to the most cynical out there. Sure they didn't do it, but that they felt they had the authority to consider it (in a democracy, where they answer to us) speaks volumes.
- flukus 9y ago
  It's a contingency scenario for the situation where the president (or senior officials) want to start a war. Yes it's a stretch but they might see it that way, "if the president wants to invade Canada then we need a plan to make it happen".
ApolloFortyNine 9y ago
I only read your first link, but seeing how all it is is a contingency plan, so that the US would know how to proceed in a hypothetical war against Britain, I don't think I really have to look any further. The US likely has one for the EU, Russia, and China as well. And China and Russia definitely do, and the EU would if they had a true central military. It's just good planning.
- DarronWyke 9y ago
  Exactly, that's all this is -- planning. Consider the world of information security, which I'm involved in. What's the best way for blue team (defenders) to protect their assets? Look at what the red team (attackers) are doing/targeting. That doesn't necessarily mean their active avenues of attack, but what are their trends, possibilities, means and ways. The same cuts true for the opposite scenario.
kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
> U.S government does a lot of contingency planning But Puerto Rican hurricanes aren't on the radar apparently.
tmccrmck 9y ago
As someone who has spent time around Lajes Field, War Plan Gray is interesting seeing as how the U.S. de facto seized land on Terceira anyway. Much of my family came over around that time to make room for the military base. Ironically, the Portuguese are very upset now that the U.S. is pulling more and more soldiers away from Lajes as it's leaving a hole in the local economy.

by JackFr 9y ago

alexandercrohde 9y ago

This is dismissive. I don't foresee any valid contingency scenario that validates a "false flag," the fact that individuals in the government would think this way only gives credence to the most cynical out there. Sure they didn't do it, but that they felt they had the authority to consider it (in a democracy, where they answer to us) speaks volumes.

flukus 9y ago
It's a contingency scenario for the situation where the president (or senior officials) want to start a war. Yes it's a stretch but they might see it that way, "if the president wants to invade Canada then we need a plan to make it happen".

ApolloFortyNine 9y ago

I only read your first link, but seeing how all it is is a contingency plan, so that the US would know how to proceed in a hypothetical war against Britain, I don't think I really have to look any further. The US likely has one for the EU, Russia, and China as well. And China and Russia definitely do, and the EU would if they had a true central military. It's just good planning.

DarronWyke 9y ago
Exactly, that's all this is -- planning. Consider the world of information security, which I'm involved in. What's the best way for blue team (defenders) to protect their assets? Look at what the red team (attackers) are doing/targeting. That doesn't necessarily mean their active avenues of attack, but what are their trends, possibilities, means and ways. The same cuts true for the opposite scenario.

kevin_thibedeau 9y ago

> U.S government does a lot of contingency planning But Puerto Rican hurricanes aren't on the radar apparently.

tmccrmck 9y ago

As someone who has spent time around Lajes Field, War Plan Gray is interesting seeing as how the U.S. de facto seized land on Terceira anyway. Much of my family came over around that time to make room for the military base. Ironically, the Portuguese are very upset now that the U.S. is pulling more and more soldiers away from Lajes as it's leaving a hole in the local economy.