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GKE does charge for the masters for clusters of 6 or more nodes. See https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/pricing https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engi

GKE does charge for the masters for clusters of 6 or more nodes. See https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/pricing https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/pricing. Microsoft's offering does not seem to charge you for the masters ever, so that does seem like a differentiator.

gkop 9y ago
You write "Microsoft's offering does not seem to charge you for the masters ever". The article says "You will only pay for the virtual machines (VM) that you use for managing your Kubernetes cluster". Do you have a source that disagrees with the article? Edit: to those replying correcting the article, if you were to create a top-level comment on this thread correcting the article, we could upvote your comments and better correct the misinformation. I have edited my own comment explaining what you have dug up. Thanks for your research!
- Voloskaya 9y ago
  https://docs.microsoft.com/gl-es/azure/aks/intro-kubernetes https://docs.microsoft.com/gl-es/azure/aks/intro-kubernetes > "you pay only for the agent nodes within your clusters, not for the masters."
  - justinjlynn 9y ago
    Which is to be read "the price of the Master is incorporated into the amortised price per unit time of the agent nodes". Microsoft is not giving you something for nothing here.
    - plasma 9y ago
      To be fair to MS here, the agent price is the same as the stand-alone VM pricing, so there really does not appear to be a premium/hidden cost here.
      - justinjlynn 9y ago
        Either that or everyone is paying some kind of premium to subsidise the service. I would be extremely surprised if it's not rolled into some cost of goods sold metric -- if it's one thing microsoft is not, it's being bad at passing on costs.
- AaronFriel 9y ago
  Yes, I have played with AKS. You do not pay for the Kubernetes masters, just the nodes. In the prior version of the product (ACS) you would specify a cluster size as a number of masters and a number of workers/nodes. In AKS, you only manage the latter and Azure abstracts away the Kubernetes API. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-service/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-...
  - chimeracoder 9y ago
    > Yes, I have played with AKS. You do not pay for the Kubernetes masters, just the nodes. In the prior version of the product (ACS) you would specify a cluster size as a number of masters and a number of workers/nodes. In AKS, you only manage the latter and Azure abstracts away the Kubernetes API. On GKE, if i run a Kubernetes cluster of size 1, I'm still charged for a single VM. You're saying that if I do the equivalent on Azure, I won't get charged at all?
    - bonesss 9y ago
      Based on the comments in this thread GCE charges you for masters on clusters with 6 or more nodes, while MS AKS will only charge you for the nodes. As with anything cloud related, though: it's all about relevant cost calculations for the specific solution...

gkop 9y ago

You write "Microsoft's offering does not seem to charge you for the masters ever". The article says "You will only pay for the virtual machines (VM) that you use for managing your Kubernetes cluster". Do you have a source that disagrees with the article? Edit: to those replying correcting the article, if you were to create a top-level comment on this thread correcting the article, we could upvote your comments and better correct the misinformation. I have edited my own comment explaining what you have dug up. Thanks for your research!

Voloskaya 9y ago
https://docs.microsoft.com/gl-es/azure/aks/intro-kubernetes https://docs.microsoft.com/gl-es/azure/aks/intro-kubernetes > "you pay only for the agent nodes within your clusters, not for the masters."
- justinjlynn 9y ago
  Which is to be read "the price of the Master is incorporated into the amortised price per unit time of the agent nodes". Microsoft is not giving you something for nothing here.
  - plasma 9y ago
    To be fair to MS here, the agent price is the same as the stand-alone VM pricing, so there really does not appear to be a premium/hidden cost here.
    - justinjlynn 9y ago
      Either that or everyone is paying some kind of premium to subsidise the service. I would be extremely surprised if it's not rolled into some cost of goods sold metric -- if it's one thing microsoft is not, it's being bad at passing on costs.
AaronFriel 9y ago
Yes, I have played with AKS. You do not pay for the Kubernetes masters, just the nodes. In the prior version of the product (ACS) you would specify a cluster size as a number of masters and a number of workers/nodes. In AKS, you only manage the latter and Azure abstracts away the Kubernetes API. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-service/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/container-...
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > Yes, I have played with AKS. You do not pay for the Kubernetes masters, just the nodes. In the prior version of the product (ACS) you would specify a cluster size as a number of masters and a number of workers/nodes. In AKS, you only manage the latter and Azure abstracts away the Kubernetes API. On GKE, if i run a Kubernetes cluster of size 1, I'm still charged for a single VM. You're saying that if I do the equivalent on Azure, I won't get charged at all?
  - bonesss 9y ago
    Based on the comments in this thread GCE charges you for masters on clusters with 6 or more nodes, while MS AKS will only charge you for the nodes. As with anything cloud related, though: it's all about relevant cost calculations for the specific solution...