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I really, really hope aws joins the game. re:invent is around the corner.

fredsted 9y ago
Well, you can use something like kops, although it's a little more difficult to get started, I guess. This new tool from Azure is basically the same thing. It's a little interesting since they already have ECS, which isn't that bad either, but it seems like everyone just wants Kubernetes. Will they do both, or provide a migration path?
- rad_gruchalski 9y ago
  ECS is okay, used it quite a bit recently. It definitely has some quirks to it, like having to use CloudWatch events to figure out the port given to the container when using bridge network. Maybe if the service discovery story was a little bit more defined, ECS would be easier to use. There's lots of little manual things one has to do around it to make it work as swift as other solutions available. With regards to k8s on AWS, I do not have a problem running it myself but some backing from AWS definitely help defining k8s as "the solution" for running containerized workflows. Here's one hoping.
geerlingguy 9y ago
Didn’t AWS just join the Kubernetes foundation earlier this year? If so, we’ll see what comes. One thing ECS does is fully integrate ALBs and NLBs with containerized services and makes the plumbing and scaling pretty easy to set up (at least IMO. If they can swap out the custom ECS service that manages containers with K8s, that makes sense to me and would mean all the major cloud providers are centralizing on K8s... which in turn means we could stop building a new container orchestration layer every month and move on to some new problem :)
Saaster 9y ago
I'm almost sure they will. They don't have much of a NIH problem (look at how many DBs they support, anyone remember SimpleDB?), ECS hasn't exactly taken off, and they're generally very good at giving whatever their customers want.
- discodave 9y ago
  Fun fact: SimpleDB still exists and has customers. It's just very very very hard to find a link to it from AWS :) https://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/ https://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/
  - otterley 9y ago
    I wrote about SimpleDB earlier this year - it still has some use cases that aren't readily suited to other database providers. https://medium.com/zendesk-engineering/resurrecting-amazon-simpledb-9404034ec506 https://medium.com/zendesk-engineering/resurrecting-amazon-s...
iddqd 9y ago
One of the re:Invent talk descriptions referenced something called "Elastic Container Service for Kubernetes (EKS)". Make of that what you will.

Well, you can use something like kops, although it's a little more difficult to get started, I guess. This new tool from Azure is basically the same thing. It's a little interesting since they already have ECS, which isn't that bad either, but it seems like everyone just wants Kubernetes. Will they do both, or provide a migration path?

rad_gruchalski 9y ago
ECS is okay, used it quite a bit recently. It definitely has some quirks to it, like having to use CloudWatch events to figure out the port given to the container when using bridge network. Maybe if the service discovery story was a little bit more defined, ECS would be easier to use. There's lots of little manual things one has to do around it to make it work as swift as other solutions available. With regards to k8s on AWS, I do not have a problem running it myself but some backing from AWS definitely help defining k8s as "the solution" for running containerized workflows. Here's one hoping.

geerlingguy 9y ago

Didn’t AWS just join the Kubernetes foundation earlier this year? If so, we’ll see what comes. One thing ECS does is fully integrate ALBs and NLBs with containerized services and makes the plumbing and scaling pretty easy to set up (at least IMO. If they can swap out the custom ECS service that manages containers with K8s, that makes sense to me and would mean all the major cloud providers are centralizing on K8s... which in turn means we could stop building a new container orchestration layer every month and move on to some new problem :)

Saaster 9y ago

I'm almost sure they will. They don't have much of a NIH problem (look at how many DBs they support, anyone remember SimpleDB?), ECS hasn't exactly taken off, and they're generally very good at giving whatever their customers want.

discodave 9y ago
Fun fact: SimpleDB still exists and has customers. It's just very very very hard to find a link to it from AWS :) https://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/ https://aws.amazon.com/simpledb/
- otterley 9y ago
  I wrote about SimpleDB earlier this year - it still has some use cases that aren't readily suited to other database providers. https://medium.com/zendesk-engineering/resurrecting-amazon-simpledb-9404034ec506 https://medium.com/zendesk-engineering/resurrecting-amazon-s...

iddqd 9y ago

One of the re:Invent talk descriptions referenced something called "Elastic Container Service for Kubernetes (EKS)". Make of that what you will.